yeah but after bp jay used his relationship with beyonce to propel him into higher celebrity status then used kanye as an artistic crutch for the later half of his career
hov still a legend but i think his position in the game has a lot more to do with strategic use of relationships rather than purely art
yeah but after bp jay used his relationship with beyonce to propel him into higher celebrity status then used kanye as an artistic crutch for the later half of his career
hov still a legend but i think his position in the game has a lot more to do with strategic use of relationships rather than purely art
You can’t say that without ye or bey, Jay would have been a pusha, because Pusha never been as big as pre-Blueprint Jay. Jay was huge in late 90s, early 2000s. 5 #1 album lol.
He was supposed to retire in 2003 with The Back Album, all that came after is just business and he used really well Ye and Bey. But before that Jay was as big as Nas.
At least he isn‘t afraid to drop music in his late career unlike Hov. It Was Written alone is better than any Hov project
Hov always used other artists success to stay relevant. WTT is the best example
I’ll take quality over quantity
Hov still has the better discography and he still has our ears when he does drop
A Hov feature > a Nas album
HOV without a doubt top 3 rapper dead or alive but he doesn’t even have a quarter of Ye’s influence on music
Less classics, less hits, less cultural relevance and influence
If you look at your Apple Music replay is Jay Z really in there ?
I'm on iTunes still
“ without hov ye would be nothing “
Doesn’t really work when we saw ye lose everything and still be here
His wife
His sanity
Institutionalized
Billions
Bank accounts frozen
Home
Still here lol
I’ll take quality over quantity
Hov still has the better discography and he still has our ears when he does drop
A Hov feature > a Nas album
Hov has a spotty discog bro
What are u talking about
U ain’t taking quality or quantity it seems
Does that mean he’s better ?
Kanye is better, musically
Hov is the better rapper tho
And unlike you F***S
I love rap
Ye is the greatest artist living or alive.
“ without hov ye would be nothing “
Doesn’t really work when we saw ye lose everything and still be here
His wife
His sanity
Institutionalized
Billions
Bank accounts frozen
Home
Still here lol
Yes it does still work cause without hov he wouldn’t have any of that what
Gotta be tryna find your wifey at the Kanye show
I legit discussed this with my friend once but we don't even live in LA so
Kanye is better, musically
Hov is the better rapper tho
And unlike you F***S
I love rap
I agree with your statement but I’m unsure what this has to do in a comparison with nas
Nas was always considered a better pure rapper
Hov has a spotty discog bro
What are u talking about
U ain’t taking quality or quantity it seems
Hov dropped trash before he accepted to do WTT btw
this a Bully Ye thread or a Jay Z vs Nas thread now?
Why not both
“ without hov ye would be nothing “
Doesn’t really work when we saw ye lose everything and still be here
His wife
His sanity
Institutionalized
Billions
Bank accounts frozen
Home
Still here lol
People also underrate Ye’s impact on HOV in late 90s/2000s
Helped his sound feel fresh and not dated to the times
Magna Carta holy grail boof
While we talking
Fire song. Love JT on it
Album tho