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  • Dec 16, 2024

    YES YOU HAVE TO POINT THE SQUIRREL THAT WAY

    YOU HAVE NO ORIGINAL THOUGHTS ON THIS F***ING FORUM

    BESIDES TLDR
    SCHIZO POST
    QUOTING SOMETHING
    LIKING SOMETHING
    LIKING RETWEETING

    BECAUSE YOU BARELY WANT TO SEE YOUR OWN THOUGHTS AND WANT TO SPEAK ON AI BECAUSE YOU FEAR A CHATGPT THAT SOUNDS LIKE STEPHEN HAWKING POST EPSTEIN ISLAND TRIP IS GOING TO OUT THINK YOU KILL YOU AND DROP ALBUM OF THE YEAR

    YOU ACT LIKE ITS TRYING TO TRICK YOU TO LOVING IT WHEN I HAVE ARGUED IT SHOULD BE LABELED SO STUPID F***S LIKE YALL CAN FINALLY SHUT THE F*** UP

  • Dec 16, 2024

    AI DIDNT KILL YOU
    AI ISNT BOMBING KIDS
    AI DIDNT DENY YOUR HEALTH CARE
    AI NOT GOING TO LAUNCH NUKES
    AI DOES RISK PLAGARISM AND FAIR USE

    I AM UPSET ABOUT THE CHATGPT WHISTLEBLOWER GETTING KILLED AND THEY CALLING IT A SUICIDE

    BUT YOU NOT SPEAKING ON THAT BECAUSE THE SYNAPSES IN YOUR HEAD AS DEAD AS MY BATTERY IN THE COLD AND NO AMOUNT OF SODA CAN UNCORRODE

    YOUR BRAIN

    SOMETIMES I THINK YALL ON NITROUS AND NOT YE

  • Dec 16, 2024

    thats a good stopping point happy monday

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    when billy hit

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    knees

    when billy hit

    MAGNUM OPUS

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    OHMNI

    is it emotionally moving? like I dont think in numbers like yall

    are you asking me if today I figured out MBDTF was aI would it affect the score?

    sure if MBDTF was ai would it change your feelings about the album?

    what bothers me about the current ai model is how lifeless it sounds. there's something intimate that comes from the imperfections of a human's voice. like in "Hands On" off JIK or even "God Is" there are moments his voice is strained, you can hear phlegm in his throat, and he sounds raspy. all of that human imperfection is lost with ai voice models.

    if MBDTF was ai I would be impressed, because as of 2024 there has been no evidence of an ai voice model existing that as expressive and dynamic as Ye's vocals on MBDTF.

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    sure if MBDTF was ai would it change your feelings about the album?

    what bothers me about the current ai model is how lifeless it sounds. there's something intimate that comes from the imperfections of a human's voice. like in "Hands On" off JIK or even "God Is" there are moments his voice is strained, you can hear phlegm in his throat, and he sounds raspy. all of that human imperfection is lost with ai voice models.

    if MBDTF was ai I would be impressed, because as of 2024 there has been no evidence of an ai voice model existing that as expressive and dynamic as Ye's vocals on MBDTF.

    this actually a good response I cant lie

    I am saying if it sounded like what it sounds like now

    I do like human imperfections but if you look at the hyper criticism that many have given artist that got us here do they?

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    this is the natural progression of people not valuing art, not seeing live shows, hyper criticism "we miss the old you"

    it became "aight here goes a voice codec of the old me performing something more akin to the old material " because they refuse to do it

    again watch the black mirror episode

    consumers in many ways brought things like NFTs and aI on themselves

    I have to cope with it but I actually dissect art I dont say say GOOD BAD

    trash garbage

    I say how it emotionally affected me if you speak of art in the binary you brought us to this moment I dont know what to tell you

  • Dec 16, 2024

    you are luigi in mcdonalds with the ghost gun and money in your bag like "did I kill the ceo"

    yes you killed music based on how you consume and speak on it daily

    based on what you big up

  • Dec 16, 2024

    many apple music replays look like billboard top 10

    then they wonder if the programing is working yes

    you are being programmed

  • Dec 16, 2024

    I have youtube premium so I can mainly listen to live versions of everything

    the intimateness of it

    I started this practice during the pandemic because I missed humans

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    my favorite song of all time why I am still here

    both versions beautiful

    but one emotionally demolishes you to a different level something that only something a little less produced can do

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    Saturday

  • Dec 16, 2024

    THEY SAY THE DEVILS LOOK UP FROM HELL AND QUESTION WHAT THEY WOULD DO DIFFERENTLY I GUESS WE WILL NEVER KNOW

  • Dec 16, 2024
    OHMNI

    Stay safe, brother Harold.

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    OHMNI

    this is the natural progression of people not valuing art, not seeing live shows, hyper criticism "we miss the old you"

    it became "aight here goes a voice codec of the old me performing something more akin to the old material " because they refuse to do it

    again watch the black mirror episode

    consumers in many ways brought things like NFTs and aI on themselves

    I have to cope with it but I actually dissect art I dont say say GOOD BAD

    trash garbage

    I say how it emotionally affected me if you speak of art in the binary you brought us to this moment I dont know what to tell you

    I agree 100% the average consumer has lessened the value of art, and we're currently reaping what we sowed.

    What I admired so much about Kanye was how much value he placed on art, it's importance in the world, it's ability to heal, bring people together etc.

    From what I've heard on V2, I have yet to see him use ai in a forward thinking transformative way that benefits the art being created outside of it being faster to produce.

    I guess my bigger point is if Bully is emotionally moving in sentiment/execution, but the voice expressing the thoughts/verses is devoid of actual human emotion/expression, or another person rapping with a Ye voice model, it would feel a little removed and disingenuous. If you're not rapping the words there's less personal engagement with the art you're creating. I like when you can hear the person spilling themselves into their art, and that's lost when an artist uses an ai models.

    I'd rather Ye stop making music, start a streaming service, release music on his website that becomes a corrupted file if shared, or release physical listening machines that isn't compatible with any hardware as a form of protest, rather than him submitting to the current landscape and using ai because music has been devalued.

    For a "forward thinking revolutionary" his reaction to use ai because "that's where the future is headed" seems like follower mentality and I thought Ye was anything BUT a follower.

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    Dec 16, 2024

    op going bully mode

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    u ok jay

    bro

    me to me while typing

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    I agree 100% the average consumer has lessened the value of art, and we're currently reaping what we sowed.

    What I admired so much about Kanye was how much value he placed on art, it's importance in the world, it's ability to heal, bring people together etc.

    From what I've heard on V2, I have yet to see him use ai in a forward thinking transformative way that benefits the art being created outside of it being faster to produce.

    I guess my bigger point is if Bully is emotionally moving in sentiment/execution, but the voice expressing the thoughts/verses is devoid of actual human emotion/expression, or another person rapping with a Ye voice model, it would feel a little removed and disingenuous. If you're not rapping the words there's less personal engagement with the art you're creating. I like when you can hear the person spilling themselves into their art, and that's lost when an artist uses an ai models.

    I'd rather Ye stop making music, start a streaming service, release music on his website that becomes a corrupted file if shared, or release physical listening machines that isn't compatible with any hardware as a form of protest, rather than him submitting to the current landscape and using ai because music has been devalued.

    For a "forward thinking revolutionary" his reaction to use ai because "that's where the future is headed" seems like follower mentality and I thought Ye was anything BUT a follower.

    people complaining about AI are like those complaining about climate change while dropping bombs

    I dont know what to tell them as they post their spotify and apple music repaly even myself included where the artist you love most made like 5$ off you max

    they can get like a wendys meal with your money when these artist music is the only reason I dont kill myself

    without art I would kill myself

  • Dec 16, 2024

    you rather ye stop making music but making music is therapeutic for him

    just stop listening

  • Dec 16, 2024

    I LOVE MUSE TO DEATH

    BUT Muse last album for me is resistance

  • Dec 16, 2024

    I loved Weeds but its final season is when the farm burns down

  • Dec 16, 2024

    I love true blood but its final season is when the succubus got everyone f***ing

  • Dec 16, 2024

    You can stop engaging with an art and create your own ending whenever you turn it off

    you are in control

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