Lil Durk did not debut in 2017

And peak fame does not mean the artist belongs to said decade.

Tyler the Creator is currently peaking in fame as we speak but you would sound crazy calling him an up-and-coming artist

Pusha T was making music in 2006 and is mentioned on control let me use buddies own argument

21 and Yachty were both in the 2016 XXL Freshman list

Pusha T did not debut in 2013

and didn’t drop debut albums until 2017…the same year as Youngboy your love arguing brother

He’s the ONE exception, and I already explained it’s because he didn’t release his debut solo album in 2013. You would still sound crazy calling Pusha T an up-and-coming artist in 2025 because he’s peaking in fame right now

Jay should sue her for this s***

Keep up with the conversation bruh, Push was already noted as the one exception in that verse

You named 5 artists who have been making music for a decade

so you get an exception for a nigga who debuted a whole decade before the song you referenced…but I can’t mention Lil durk? Yea we’re done bro, I gotta go lift. this was pointless. how you get to name Pusha T in your list hyping up Control but I can’t name Durk in mine, I’m dead

Imagine asking someone to recommend you some up-and-coming rappers in 2026 and they respond with Lil Durk, Gunna, Lil Yachty, and 21 Savage

Dog be serious

I named three other artists who have been making music for damn near a decade that you mentioned

if that’s the case, Dot was rapping for 9 years by the time Control dropped you keep shifting the criteria for you but not for me

I didn’t name Pusha T in MY list, I named the rappers Kendrick name-dropped and I specifically said BESIDES Pusha. I said that clear as day.

Dog stop it

That was during the time when the line between albums and mixtapes were becoming blurred

By your logic Young Thug was a new artist in 2019

How can someone be this obnoxiously loud and wrong lmao I’m crying

so you get to establish criterias that defend your arguments, but when I use the same criteria’s, it doesn’t count Dot was dropping mixtapes since before 2008, so was everyone he named lmfaooo

ESDEEKID will surpass j fold

You’re not using the same criteria, you’re purposefully being obtuse. You know damn well 21 and Yachty were already on the map before they dropped their debut studio albums in 2017, same way Thug was for YEARS before he dropped So Much Fun

Yeah because the world knew who Kendrick Lamar was in 2005

and Kendrick got Lil Wayne’s blessing on his tour bus in 2009 to make C4…….a whole 4 years before Control at Wayne’s peak fames (Lollipop era), so he was obviously know. Salute lmfao

Imagine 30 years from now we discussing the greatest albums of the eras and someone mentions lil baby and gunna work, when people are bringing up legit classics from 90s-2010s

Bruh

Do you genuinely believe that in the year 2026, Lil Baby, Gunna, and 21 Savage are up-and-coming artists?

Is that something you genuinely believe?

Ds3 ain’t a classic?

He attended a 2pac video shoot with his uncle should we include that too?

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