why is hip-hop the only genre with fans obsessed with calling legends "washed"

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  • KIR

    i feel like europeans (eastern europeans especially) have a warped view of "american culture" that's stuck in 2004 where 50 cent is like the greatest rapper of all time / most emblematic of what they view as hip hop

    probably something to do with the fall of the ussr

    people love 50 because he came up when lots of people were young and hes just that good and got actual hits to him, x is in that category too

    but people f*** with trav drake and kendrick just as much so its not like current rap isnt big over there

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    dontworry

    America usually disrespects legends

    Wrong

    Look at the great American icon SpongeBob SquarePants

  • WRU

    also a lot of rappers are kinda washed too though we cant just skip past that. there should be a diff word for it that isnt as dismissive of the entire musician but it is what it is

    i dont think people calling someone like Game or Snoop washed are 'obsessed' with the label

    But Game just dropped a pretty fire album that will probably be among the best rap albums this year and I was just seeing some Akademiks video where in some random week in the summer it was among the top played Apple Music albums or something like that, competing with ICEMAN, Bully and the Mount Rushmore Lil Baby album cover from a few years ago. The only way someone would say he's washed is because he doesn't have some huge record out but does Veeze Lil Baby Lucki Carti have a huge record out right now? Lol aside from maybe Ganger they certainly haven't dropped an actual RAP album better than this in the past few years

    @thagreatone402
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    I don’t care what the numbers look like. This album is a classic.
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    Lol

  • I think as 3 stacks said it before it's definitely bc as it's in the name hip hop is very much about being "hip" and trying but failing to be hip gets cringe very quickly.

    there's very few rappers that have managed to stay relevant for more than a few years bc it isn't easy to either be timeless enough for your style to not age badly (someone like mos def maybe) or be tapped in w what's new enough to keep up with a constantly changing landscape (kanye for a while)

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    Hip hop was built on being hip and focused on the youth culture. As the genre ages the pitfalls of that mentality still lingers and has only really started to be addressed with older acts as they continue to age gracefully with their music

  • americana

    Wrong

    Look at the great American icon SpongeBob SquarePants

    spongebob is a wageslave so he's infinitely relatable

  • relapsed bisexual

    what's the point in pretending someone is still good

    to your point tho: i think it's a media literacy thing because how do we expect someone to continuously reinvent the wheel when he's lucky he did it the first time?

  • Oblivion X
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    Hip hop was built on being hip and focused on the youth culture. As the genre ages the pitfalls of that mentality still lingers and has only really started to be addressed with older acts as they continue to age gracefully with their music

    who do you feel is aging gracefully?

  • Rap fans are smarter than rock fans and more willing to call the older guys out for their s***

  • Oral tradition

  • Because the hip-hop audience is young man, they don’t give a f***. They’re constantly on to the next thing

  • Drogon

    y'all never seen a pink floyd fan calling roger waters washed man

    That man is washed like James from Metallica is

  • Mark Moschino

    who do you feel is aging gracefully?

    Nas, Common, Clipse

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