yo f*** hate.

he is true in saying animosity has increased.
I remember when same s***marriage was passed.

and now, it just feels dangerous.

I feel like the pushabck is mostly only about trans people nowadays

We’ve been going backwards as of late
All the progress made from the 60’s and on is being regressed

A lot of things that we figured out when people were getting around by horse and carriage are now being questioned again

Most of it I think comes from the culture wars which started grassroots but has now morphed into a way to distract the working class from the real enemy

Divide and conquer

unlike other civil rights, lgbt activists eventually hit a brick wall because the bible is against it and evangelical christians wont budge on that.

Fair to say evangelicals are the greatest cause for grief across the board in the US

krishna post inbound

but before that the explanation is that cointelpro decimated the actual left in the united states which is where all these bourgeois concessions we have now come from. and with all bourgeois concessions they can just take them away at will once the revolutionary moment has passed.

Gender dysphoria and transness are still things most people don't have a real understanding of, so it's very easy for evangelicals and TERFs to fill people's heads with complete bullshit to make trans people out to be an enemy to them and their children.

and the ruling class has no morality. they are all opportunists doing what serves them in the moment. whatever opportunistic gains they could make by recuperating lgbt rights has no bearing on what direction they head next.

thinking that this stuff is determined by social morality and not control over the levers of power will leave you blinded and deafened to how these things actually operate

Stop watching Vice first of all.

Progress has stalled because barely anybody cares about making progress. Like virtually every other identity-based movement, it has been willingly given over to corporate and capital interests to do whatever they please with. Progress (i.e., material change and organization taking action towardd it) has been gleefully replaced with "progress" in the mainstream, where the utmost importance is put on images, symbols, and identification that will never result in anything more than superficial distractions for people who are bored and unfulfilled in their middle-class existence.

Legalizing gay marriage wasn't even much progress to begin with. The biggest change that resulted from legal gay marriage was same-sex couples being eligible for marital tax benefits. Gay couple could always have a ceremony and spend their lives together like any other married couple. There is nothing special about the state officially recognizing your relationship.

That empty sentiment is just the capstone in the bullshit mainstreaming of gayness (and other subcultures) that has been going on for the past 35 years. Asking "why has progress stalled" today is stupid. It's been stalled for over three decades ever since idea of making gay people safe enough for mainstream consumers to enjoy started being celebrated.

It's still insane to me that legalizing gay marriage was such a media blockbuster when fortune 500 companies and regional powerhouses have always (and still) tailor the language of their training and disclosure materials to either include or omit protections against employment discrimination in regards to sexual orientation based on which state they are hiring you in, or sometime which state the company is headquartered in.

Watching s*** like that Vice video or scrolling through social media looking for anti-gay bullshit all day can make anything feel dangerous. Sensation isn't reality. Unless you're living in a 1200 population Mississippi or Alabama town where local bars wont let you inside if you're hat is turned backwards, there's no rational reason for any gay person living in metro-America to feel in danger. If gay people were actually in danger then we would see a lot more of actual action and collectivism towards material change instead of a s*** ton of "ong did you see this? i am scared" reactions to fearmongering media nonsense.

LGB reached the end it seems. But T is still fighting.

If only that pushback could be directed at the "queer" group instead

I stand with LGTB as president

I get where your coming from but let’s not be dismissive
We got elected officials trying to ban Drag shows something that’s been a norm for decades something that’s been on cable television just for political points under the guise of protecting children (very slippery slope)

I’m not even LGBTQ+ I see what’s happening, they found a rallying cry based off a lies and are running with it

The whole drag s*** is empty sensational media and political nonsense. It is not nearly as big of a deal as its made out to be. If it was then RuPaul wouldn't have just celebrated the 200th episode on drag race on their 3rd major cable network with a $200,000 cash prize with giant corporate sponsorships.

What started as a reaction towards drag queen book reading for children at libraries — a couple of which are admittedly definitely not okay and i genuinely cant tell if it was done by trolls, intelligence agents, or brainrot radlibs who actually think they are doing something good — has evolved into easy news media lay-ups and political campaign talking points about drag in general. And like 99% of media and political campaign topics, it will more likely than not go absolutely nowhere and is only being used so whatever group/person pushing them can maintain or consolidate power in office/media.

Just because articles and social media posts are saying this is something to be worried about doesn't mean it is. More often it means there's nothing to be worried about.

In my view s*** rolls down hill and as long as those at the top continue to push this rhetoric those at the bottom will eat it up and use it to justify their actions.

I already know this thread is finna be a brain cell holocaust

There are far, far more people who are accepting of gay people in the real world than most would assume. And that includes people who dont agree or understand gay lifestyles but accept/respect them, which is perfectly okay.

There are ALWAYS going to be people who hate or hold prejudice against gays (and every other conceivable group different from them). And they are always going to find a way to justify their beliefs. Worrying about this, living in fear, or thinking that the job wont be done until every person embraces every other person is the absolute gayest s*** (the bad kind) you can do with your life.

idk i saw a post today about Tossi defending gay people and how we shouldn't use it as an insult cuz we wouldn't use "Straight" as an insult and damn near every comment was insulting him telling him to come out the closet. Honestly it made me pretty sad.

Progress is never linear from a sociological POV literally never

You can list 1000s of random interconnected reasons, it’s not close to a handful of things

• there's no rational reason for any gay person living in metro-America to feel in danger. If gay people were actually in danger then we would see a lot more of actual action and collectivism towards material change

proving that a "lack of oppression" exists by citing a lack of collective action is a bad argument

besides, not sure why you're focusing solely on gay people when the most extreme vitriol is directed against trans and genderqueer people

and even if you assume that most people are relatively accepting of gay people, that doesnt mean things can't change quickly

OP said "I remember when same s***marriage was passed. Now it just feels dangerous." Thats why i stuck with gay people. Im also gay and i dont speak on behalf on trans people

I didnt prove anything or say that lack of collective action means lack oppression. I said that if people actually felt like they were in legitimate danger (in contrast to exaggerating feelings online because thats what screen life breeds) then they would probably be doing a whole lot more than complaining online about it endlessly or staging pointless protests that get 20 minutes of media coverage and are instantly forgotten because everyone went home to complain more online

The rest of your post is concern posting that causes brainrot

horrible post jfc

Omg you're right what was i thinking

would you say your concern about the concern of other people being concerned about concerning things cancels out said concern?