I mean sure tons of musicians like Deftones or Bob Dylan have albums that have unsurfaced and been revered, but it’s as though almost every rapper has a leak or a snippet or a live preview that fans are willing to put up there with the best of their best

SHMG leaks, OG Views, WLR V1, Travis and Thug’s leak eras are entire albums’ worth of material that people will swear by, and these sorts of collections are found among every notable hiphop artist, not only in mere presence but also reverence by fans

Is it because of hiphop’s far more loose structure of releases? (mixtapes, loose tracks, etc vs rock albums having more defined sessions) is it because of mixtape culture? Is the extensive community that surrounds rappers something that allows songs to disseminate? Is it the hype in hiphop bc culture? Is it because of the sheer quantity of recordings hiphop artists make?

sample clearances and splits

that allows songs to what now

well 1 person can make a (shitty) hip hop song in like 10 minutes. kinda hard to do that with a whole group of people playing instruments.

You’re retarded

good talk

You clearly didn’t read s***

don't see how what I said is contrary to anything you said. anyways, why would I engage further if that's how you respond?

Sample Clearances
Leaks

But mostly imo Rap since 2010-2016 has ironically become (second to pop) the genre most concerned with commercial success and fan reaction especially under the reign of the people you named. Why would Drake do some s*** that potentially might not sell if thats what he bases most of his rap bravado

Lol i saw on here the other week that Metro and Southside talked Ye into making TLOP less futuristic and weird. S*** like that. Niggas want the safest route to commercial success and a lot of cool s*** gets scrapped along the way

because i think it’s an unwritten rule that rappers can’t officially release their best songs

holy s*** they finally uncensored it. Thank God. we're all adults here, we can handle bad words

it because of hiphop’s far more loose structure of releases? (mixtapes, loose tracks, etc vs rock albums having more defined sessions) is it because of mixtape culture? Is the extensive community that surrounds rappers something that allows songs to disseminate? Is it the hype in hiphop bc culture? Is it because of the sheer quantity of recordings hiphop artists make?

I think it’s all this honestly. It leads to a culture that isn’t as locked up about unreleased material as other genres and actively makes a market out of selling unreleased material

We care more about music in general

I think because demos and unfinished songs from rappers are a lot cooler and closed to finished than hearing a bands unfinished ideas. like the songs themselves don't really get good until their pretty much done where as in hip-hop a lot of the time you can take the initial take/idea and it's dope enough to pass

The only answer other than samples is probably structure

I'm sure there's 1000 beyonce and taylor swift demos but they probably encrypt everything and have protocols when dealing with engineers and s***

The Travis Scotts of the game just text songs their working on to their friends and do everything on a laptop

Electronic music has a deep culture of unidentified songs recorded from live performances.

The online black market for rap music plus rappers recording a thousand songs is just more unique to the rap boom.

EDM literally has the term ID for unreleased live classics

EDM exists in a totally different distribution system than other genres of music

EDM and DJ mixes literally built SoundCloud

Lana and Charli been leaked plenty of times

@op different distribution models, more grass roots organization

I think the biggest one is the volume of music recorded but its a mix of everything you listed

@op something to consider too is that there are tonssss of famous bootlegs/concert recordings of rock bands, it's just when they were relevant they didn't have sites for distribution

You can’t record a band in a random room somewhere so they have to be ready to record their music fr when they go to the studio.

Not much room for extra songs unless they’re just scrapped from an album.

A lot of bands do release demos though that’s about it.

Or they work songs out live that never get recorded and their “unreleased” is just live versions of stuff that never made it on record

This exactly