You really don’t know history, Jews and Christians lived in Muslim nations with freedom of religion, freedom to access the market, and the security of life property and liberty for the greater part of nearly a millennia and a half. They where the first to ever extend that to Jews. No laws or social barriers restricted their commercial activities, and exclusive trade and craft guilds like those in Europe did not exist.
Whilst Christian countries openly the prosecuted Jews, burn them alive, and consolidated their wealth and property into their own. No such thing ever happened in a Muslim nation ever
I think it's been disproven tbh. I may be wrong, I'll do some quick wikipedia searches though.
I agree, any sort of hatred towards a specific group of people needs to stop.
Has it? Because it's actually really weird why Jewish people own so much of the media. I was never able to disprove it tbh.
But to turn that into a hatred for all Jews is just foolish. Obviously the elites of the world aren't all just one ethnicity. Like, yeah maybe the world is secretly run by Jews, but that doesn't mean the local Jewish student org on campus is full of evil people lmao. Or everyone in Israel is apart of the secret Jewish elite waiting to take over.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Bakish
He's the CEO of ViacomCBS. He's not Jewish.
Has it? Because it's actually really weird why Jewish people own so much of the media. I was never able to disprove it tbh.
But to turn that into a hatred for all Jews is just foolish. Obviously the elites of the world aren't all just one ethnicity. Like, yeah maybe the world is secretly run by Jews, but that doesn't mean the local Jewish student org on campus is full of evil people lmao. Or everyone in Israel is apart of the secret Jewish elite waiting to take over.
the reason jewish people own so much of the media and financial industry is because jewish people were historically outcasted from typical working sectors because of social discrimination. working in finance and working in entertainment were seen as sleazy jobs and jews were inadvertently pushed into these industries because they faced prejudice elsewhere. as these industries became more profitable and less alienated (and more idealized), because of the lack of mobility and lack of monetary circulation under american capitalism the people who worked in these industries and made massive amounts of money never left or had a reason to leave.
the reason jewish people own so much of the media and financial industry is because jewish people were historically outcasted from typical working sectors because of social discrimination. working in finance and working in entertainment were seen as sleazy jobs and jews were inadvertently pushed into these industries because they faced prejudice elsewhere. as these industries became more profitable and less alienated (and more idealized), because of the lack of mobility and lack of monetary circulation under american capitalism the people who worked in these industries and made massive amounts of money never left or had a reason to leave.
damn, so white elites were basically like 'fuck off, go work these dead end jobs' and it was Jews who had the last laugh?
damn, so white elites were basically like 'fuck off, go work these dead end jobs' and it was Jews who had the last laugh?
i wouldn't say it was coordinated, it's not like they were "forced" to work in these jobs (passively or otherwise), but jews faced a lot of discrimination - much like the Irish & Italians did in the US - the difference is that Jewish work in finance stems all the way back to the feudal ages. Many jewish people come from trade families; families that were historically tradesmen or vocational. Thus, it was very easy for jewish people to simply start businesses as opposed to deal with discrimination in work-forces. Because of the insular pockets of other jewish people in neighborhoods (because of jewish ghettos as well as because of insular living), it was very easy for jewish people to become self-sufficient in their business and trade. This was also the case for italians and irish. However, unlike them, jewish people never got involved in local politics - i.e. the irish and tamany hall in NYC. This resulted in jewish people never being absorbed in the cultural-political "white" social class; thus, as irish became political pawns to simply be abused as factory workers and such (in exchange for 'political privilege'), jews never really did this, and they largely thrived on their own, and by complete coincidence most of the trades they participated in were highly profitable even during times of depression - i.e. tailoring. The entertainment/media industry (and similar) were largely populated for a similar reason; jewish people ended up in the industry because there was a simply an opening to do so and no one else was filling it as it was looked down upon. Contrary to popular belief, the people who participated in these were initially not rich - they were run by the equivalent of the lower-middle and middle class at the time. However, as these industries ended up being insanely profitable because of post-industrial (and later post-war) class and culture changes, the people who were there prior were still there, and became profitable at such a quick extent that the people who were there prior became the old guard monetarily even when non-jews started flooding the industry.
the reason jewish people own so much of the media and financial industry is because jewish people were historically outcasted from typical working sectors because of social discrimination. working in finance and working in entertainment were seen as sleazy jobs and jews were inadvertently pushed into these industries because they faced prejudice elsewhere. as these industries became more profitable and less alienated (and more idealized), because of the lack of mobility and lack of monetary circulation under american capitalism the people who worked in these industries and made massive amounts of money never left or had a reason to leave.
There's also the elephant in the room. Ashkenazi Jews have the highest average IQ of any ethnic group, which is 112-115. This has significance because IQ is a good predictor of success in most jobs. It's also a good explanation for why they won 27% of the US Nobel science prizes and 25% of the ACM Turing awards even though they make up about 3% of the US population.
There's also the elephant in the room. Ashkenazi Jews have the highest average IQ of any ethnic group, which is 112-115. This has significance because IQ is a good predictor of success in most jobs. It's also a good explanation for why they won 27% of the US Nobel science prizes and 25% of the ACM Turing awards even though they make up about 3% of the US population.
yes you are correct and i would not deny that. however i think the discussions about IQ to be honest can go south quickly. IQ discussions are hard to have since they are multifaceted.
part of what breeds success is insular stability. jewish people have been lucky enough to largely maintain strong facets of their culture in light of diasporas, oppression, and more. he Han Chinese ethnicity actually have similar background to this; the difference is jewish people were diasporic and have never been localized and thus have such compounded by centuries of historical nuance while the former is mainly heavily localized and has not really had that happen. There are not a lot of "poor" ashkenazis; the average income of ashkenazis jews has - in the post-war modern era - been higher than that of the average person; even higher than that averaged of other types of jewish people! It's not surprising thus that they breed more success statistically; you're going to get a higher rate of outlier successes from ethnicities which align with socioeconomic classes more than you are from ethnicities which do not. As I said in another post, a lot of the success has to do with how old guards are formed because of immobility under capitalism. Those who reach the upper class basically stay in the upper class, even if they got there by accident.
yes you are correct and i would not deny that. however i think the discussions about IQ to be honest can go south quickly. IQ discussions are hard to have since they are multifaceted.
part of what breeds success is insular stability. jewish people have been lucky enough to largely maintain strong facets of their culture in light of diasporas, oppression, and more. he Han Chinese ethnicity actually have similar background to this; the difference is jewish people were diasporic and have never been localized and thus have such compounded by centuries of historical nuance while the former is mainly heavily localized and has not really had that happen. There are not a lot of "poor" ashkenazis; the average income of ashkenazis jews has - in the post-war modern era - been higher than that of the average person; even higher than that averaged of other types of jewish people! It's not surprising thus that they breed more success statistically; you're going to get a higher rate of outlier successes from ethnicities which align with socioeconomic classes more than you are from ethnicities which do not. As I said in another post, a lot of the success has to do with how old guards are formed because of immobility under capitalism. Those who reach the upper class basically stay in the upper class, even if they got there by accident.
True. The more successful you are, the probability of being more successful increases, which eventually leads to a Pareto distribution.
Just say your a white supremacist and go bruh lol
Lmao yes white supremacists are known for statements such as "Jews are hated for no specific reason"
True. The more successful you are, the probability of being more successful increases, which eventually leads to a Pareto distribution.
dare i say... lindy?
dare i say... lindy?
Yes, but the reverse is true as well. The less successful you are, the probability of being more successful decreases. It's all positive feedback loops.
But the thing is, just because a group of people has control doesn't mean it's a bad thing? Like someone said earlier ITT just because the CEO's of major media companies in the US happen to be Jewish doesn't mean that they even have anything to do with what gets broadcasted lol.
Most things that get broadcasted are made by a specific team of people who are reporting on the story, like wtf does that have to do with someone who runs the business?
there's no correlation
how naive can you be
the biggest instigators of antisemitism lately and in the past 100 years have been the zionists in their genocide against Palestinian Arabs
But the thing is, just because a group of people has control doesn't mean it's a bad thing? Like someone said earlier ITT just because the CEO's of major media companies in the US happen to be Jewish doesn't mean that they even have anything to do with what gets broadcasted lol.
Most things that get broadcasted are made by a specific team of people who are reporting on the story, like wtf does that have to do with someone who runs the business?
there's no correlation
I hope they spare you bro
There's also the elephant in the room. Ashkenazi Jews have the highest average IQ of any ethnic group, which is 112-115. This has significance because IQ is a good predictor of success in most jobs. It's also a good explanation for why they won 27% of the US Nobel science prizes and 25% of the ACM Turing awards even though they make up about 3% of the US population.
That's due to those circumstances that they live(d) thru, not something inherent to them.
That's due to those circumstances that they live(d) thru, not something inherent to them.
Intelligence, as measured by IQ tests, is a heritable genetic trait, my man. We don't know what lead to jews having a higher average. Inbreeding and famine among a population can contribute to a decline in IQ tho, but I don't think this applies to a lot of people today.
But I agree with what @krishna_bound said that discussions about IQ tend to go south pretty quick. Let me be clear that I don't think people should be discriminated based on immutable traits of any kind, but based on merit. Jews having a higher IQ is just an observation, and IQ alone is not the be-all and end-all.
Intelligence, as measured by IQ tests, is a heritable genetic trait, my man. We don't know what lead to jews having a higher average. Inbreeding and famine among a population can contribute to a decline in IQ tho, but I don't think this applies to a lot of people today.
But I agree with what @krishna_bound said that discussions about IQ tend to go south pretty quick. Let me be clear that I don't think people should be discriminated based on immutable traits of any kind, but based on merit. Jews having a higher IQ is just an observation, and IQ alone is not the be-all and end-all.
Heritable =/= genetic.
Most ppl don't understand a thing about heritability or IQ which is why people fall for what is essentially eugenics so easily
Most ppl don't understand a thing about heritability or IQ which is why people fall for what is essentially eugenics so easily
Like most ppl think "oh look this study says IQ has a heritability of .5 so that means that 50% of your IQ is determined by your genetics and thus your IQ is partially determined by your race"
Which couldn't be further from the truth but when Sam Harris says it in such a calm voice and you're not educated it sounds plausible
If you think the fact that they own the media is 🧢 look how fast nick got cancelled and they removed wild n out off mtv lol
It’s so funny bcus the viacom statements made it fine the white people are beasts statements was fine it was the antisemitic stuff that was too far
S*** is so sus lmao
Shari Redstone, the chairperson, is. I’m against antisemetism too but it’s very real that Jews are highly represented among the media. That being said, they don’t use their representation for insidious purposes, and regular Jewish aren’t really in on some plot to control the world like conspiracy theorists claiming though
You don’t think there’s rampant nepotism that leads to over representation in the media and entertainment industry because of it?
That’s not necessarily insidious but still “eh”
Well, they do actually wield a massively disproportionate amount of power and influence over the media in the US. But that hardly means there is some kind of Jewish consortium that every Jew is unanimously a part of.
Most Jews tend to be rich, white, and liberal, so they naturally tend to propagate the values of rich white liberals. It's hardly any deeper than that.
Rich white liberal ideology is one of the causes of state of affairs in US rn tho so don’t say it like it’s a harmless ideology or more virtuous than conservatism or something
They’re capitalists who don’t hate Black people but necessarily wouldn’t want them in their neighborhood. Call it what it is
You don’t think there’s rampant nepotism that leads to over representation in the media and entertainment industry because of it?
That’s not necessarily insidious but still “eh”
It’s clear that the main reason so many of these guys are Jewish is because they’re deliberately hiring other Jewish people to fill in their roles. But at the same time, this overrepresentation hasn’t lead to any disastrous consequences for the well being of society, so I don’t really care.
In another example, think of how many rappers are from Compton. The city is some mid-sized suburb of LA, yet it seems like every 4th rapper comes from there or has ties, and it’s mot like Compton rappers are specifically better than any other city. It’s cause they got in big earlier and have used their power to bring fame to people from their city, just like jews got in the media and entertainment businesses a long time ago and have used their status to put other Jews in the same positions