yall talk about how his music being bad and conveniently forget the beautiful moment in history, Donda the album

Kanye fell off the face of the earth after Pablo. Only way back is to get his old ghostwriters together imo

In hindsight, Donda album turned out way better than it had any right to

There's some filler in the mix but the best tracks are up there with his all timers

Vultures conceptually isn't what I want from him at all, maybe the reception to v2 will make him realize that

Ye really just needs to lock in with a group of KTT's finest and let us lead him to the light lol I've said before they need a program for lost artists to lock in with fans and get back on track.

who are u to say ? everyone reacts different to their parent dying. maybe he felt responsibility for her death ? maybe this is how he copes and still go this day is having immense trouble accepting it and mixed with his bipolar disorder it makes it even harder

no one isn’t saying he’s an a****** - but a lot of times humans are awful because they have gone through traumatic experiences. he lived a toxic lifestyle throughout hollywood and his mom died because of a. surgery he was paying for. you don’t know what that does to someone

having sympathy for someone does not mean u ignore the s*** he did

also you’re a certified dumbass for bringing that dumbass article up there were allegations brought up for any s*** he was saying in the last 4 years

that wont help. his delivery is terrible now. also those titanium teeth make him sound like mush mouth yachty

There were legit signs of him doing some of these shenanigans before his mother's death.
As well as signs of him treating ppl badly, and just being an all around dirt bag to ppl.

If anything having his level of money, fame, and success with his ego is what changed him. And not having somebody on his team that genuinely cares for his image and well being caused him to deteriorate

Literally everybody changes after family death. But a parents death doesn't cause ppl to magically become antisemitic, disrespect their own race, or treat their spouse and ppl around them like garbage. Those are deeper rooted issues.

And there is nothing wrong with bring up that article lol

i'm not sure what's the debate here he's literally a diagnosed bipolar and hasn't taken meds for over half a decade + substance use that alone is enough to change a person to something completely different

this is the scene before him getting 51/50d how is it anything other than mental illness that's the root cause

Delusions of grandeur

Pablo

He was cloned

His last truly great album dropped 11 years ago output been disappointing for longer than it was good

1. The discussion was about whether or not his mother's death change him. Not his BPD, which I acknowledge
2. The discussion was around his behavior. Him all around just not being a great person. BPD doesn't force ppl to be an a******

Them some cool drums that’s a hot chorus Freddie had an amazing verse the rest of the album was half baked

It was over once he started distancing himself from anybody who disagreed with him even a little bit

Donda is PHENOMENAL if you trim it down it’s just too bloated

Ngl I peeped Vultures 1 but I am not gonna bother with 2

it felt like he was about to embrace his bipolar condition around the ye era. idk what happened

Imho, KSG and Donda are decent projects. There's way too many good songs on there for me to call them "mid."

Even Ye has gems on it despite being beneath his level. JIK and Vultures 1(still processing 2) are Kanye's only true duds imho.

vultures 2 was a mess brother, hate 2 say it bc i been defending this mans music thru thicc n thin, but i can't defend him anymore, these mixes were horrendous