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Mixtapes have no capacity to exist anymore because everyone treats everything on streaming like an album, and everything that’s not on streaming they whine like children to be officially uploaded and either refuse to listen to it outside of DSPs or straight up don’t know how to

Prime Wayne

Yep.

Streaming is the problem it all comes back to.

he raps his ass off, moves to the beat of his own drum, has crazy live shows, and dances. some people decided the pillars of hip hop was rapping, originality, live performances, dancing, and graffiti inforget where i read this mightve been the kool moe dee book or something

Everyone saying mixtapes but that can’t happen until streaming ends and ownership comes back.

And genuine fans that actually care about the artform and don’t just view it as a popularity contest between who can sell the most

if labels werent around to obstruct artists from creating them, how would streaming still pose a problem to releasing mixtapes?

Maybe those were poor examples of what I’m trying to say because I’m pretty sure at least 2-3 of the artist I mentioned didn’t have jobs or finished school. But my point was rappers aren’t have much lived experiences worth talking about because they’re coming out too young. You can hear in their music where their experience is pulled from vs when rappers had years of real world experiences they rapped about

Hasn't this what it's been for the last decade and a half? Would say it's not serious enough

1. Music released on streaming is for commercial gain, samples have to be cleared if you’re uploading onto a streaming service. This completely goes against the essence of what a mixtape is.

2. Fans judge anything released on streaming as an album and we’re too far gone to ever erase or go back on that mindset

streaming services should have a mixtape section

feel like u aint rly sit w wat i said cus anyone cuda made that argument for wayne back he was still a hot boy but being allowed to express himself that early allowed for his music to mature.

why bemoan the young for youth rather than a rapper's lack of talent and creativity at any age

Streaming services should die.

Can’t have that when streaming exists. The experiment has failed for everyone. But the corporations.

90s rappers

Begging yall to use anything but your phone and a streaming corporation to listen to music.

gekyume

i mean isnt the point of a mixtape that its free? stands to reason its not for profit anyway so why bother uploading it to streaming

and thats implying samples are gonna be used in the music, in which case ud have to worry about the labels clearing or taking down said songs regardless. smarter artists know atp to anticipate that and either omit those tracks or put together a sample-free mix as a substitute

if anything the concept of an album has been devalued by artists' lack of vision and oversaturation at this point so i dont think fans care that much. if this were an industry wide change, spotify already has demarcations for EPs and the like.

even back when im sure fans valued mixtapes just as much as albums when talking about quality of their catalog anyway so whats really changed

i mean isnt the point of a mixtape that its free? stands to reason its not for profit anyway so why bother uploading it to streaming

Because we’ve reached a point where people are so dependent on streaming that they treat non-streaming released music as if it doesn’t exist or isn’t real until it’s officially uploaded onto DSPs. Plus there isn’t really a viable free platform to upload music onto nowadays that didn’t already have its day in the sun.

All of the mixtape apps have been taken down, SoundCloud is dead, YouTube is not a realistic place to upload a project and expect people to listen. It would take a brand new, completely free app that younger rappers start using and build a fanbase off of in order for it to go anywhere

Streaming really f***ed up the creativity of everything.

Labels have more control over releases than before and uncleared sampled tracks stay unheard. As music consumers we’ve devolved from collecting our own digital libraries