Teach me

Honestly, I dont think this utopian communist society is possible to attain, and even if the people who oppose you havent engaged in leftist thought, you guys haven't read much economics or liberal thought either so that challenge is moot

Someone else will come along and get addicted to power.

I don't think a society owned by workers is gonna voluntarily choose to spend their entire time working, especially if its not gonna include items that they will use in their free time.

Obviously there will have to be important matters to attend to first, like getting the world properly fed, connected, housed, clothed, etc. but at the end of the day isn't communism a system that is supposed to give ALL laborers a life without pressure to create value for someone else?

Leisure items will be produced because we are human beings that understand that people need to chill, and there's more than enough people in the world to dedicate our collective labor to both the real issues and our own entertainment

Sports teams will still exist, chauvinism will still exist, film and music will still exist, but it'll all be disconnected from the industries that provide supplies for those to exist

i can tell you with certainty it does not look like how 18 year old ktt2 communists tell you it does

They mean well but I promise it wont pan out like they think it will

It'll be nice probably and probably not streaming

agree to disgagree about them meaning well for the most part

some seem ignorant, but the ignorance excuse can only go so far when you’re a self-proclaimed maoist

True, I dont disagree here- maoism is an evil cult. You dont have to like capitalism to believe maoism is a scourge on humanity

damn where are all the self proclaimed maoists

"ktt users secretly want to send us all to the gulags and kill political dissidents, you heard it here first"

In the socialism thread you got a guy complaining about Maoists getting kicked out, you can ignore me and say I'm a troll or you can see it's under your nose

saying that, is pointless if you don't listen

just saying

oh great, here comes the part where you pretend to not know what im talking about. didn’t see this one coming

if someone is a self proclaimed maoist you should be able to easily find evidence of this right, since they proclaimed it.

Given an infinite amount of time, everything is possible.

Is it really that, or is it that the 'socialist' party in the netherlands is actually much more liberal / moderate and faking the funk,

what they did shows a lack of understanding of what socialism even is,

and it seems you also misinterpreted the issue.

The actual socialist ideas are now being less properly represented because of what happened. Not just because 'oh their a bunch of Maoists" or some s*** you'd like to spout

I've read too much economics and engaged with too much liberal thought in all honesty

People with Maoist sympathies were kicked out. Liberal or not, followers of a murderous cult have no place in democratic parties

Yeah ok you got me here

My predivtion: eventually humanity will hit post scarcity, so communism becomes a realistic prospect then

watch Platform by Jia Zhangke

bleak as f***

Your basis for communism is that movie?

s*** was a great movie though imo

nah i just watched recently that's why and yea it is fantastico

also he did say "look" and movies are looked at (with eyes) so my suggestion is actually the best in this whole thread damn

What makes you think I dont listen?

oh f*** im thinking about a different movie

this one lmao

So how would you determine who builds infrastructure and who gets to live their dreams of being a rapper?