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  • Sep 5, 2021
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    his music hasn't evolved at all the last 5 years

  • Sep 5, 2021
    ThatGuyChike

    What does this hunger criticism really mean actually? Like hungry for what?

    And this isn’t necessarily me disagreeing, I’m just tryna hear it in more detail than that.

  • Sep 5, 2021
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    JPEGMAFIA

    his music hasn't evolved at all the last 5 years

    The haters go to.

    Then you check the artists they love. They make much less varied music than drake lol.

  • Sep 5, 2021
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    Subject matter and production (from time to time)

  • Sep 5, 2021
    The Darkest Angel

    I've never heard a Drake song like Champagne Poetry, F***ing Fans, Knife Talk, etc much less from anyone else. His unique sound is the best part. Cam you give examples?

    OK I'll try. I love the first part of Champagne party mostly cause of the beat though but the second part sounds like the second part of Furthest Thing. 21 savage did his thing on knife talk and Drake verses has elements of Popstar. F***ing fans and Not you too beats are really similar and Not you too is the superior song to me

  • Sep 5, 2021

    I didn't look into the lyrics, so right now it's probably the amount of features, maybe it hit harder as Kanye Khaledified his album too.

  • Sep 5, 2021
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    SinceKumbaya

    The haters go to.

    Then you check the artists they love. They make much less varied music than drake lol.

    genuinely curious how many major artists you can name that were big 5 years ago and haven't changed their music much at all

  • Sep 5, 2021
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    JPEGMAFIA

    genuinely curious how many major artists you can name that were big 5 years ago and haven't changed their music much at all

    Rappers all keep elements from their old music. Drake has ventured to different sound and flows within Drill, Afrobeats etc. Different pockets of pop, in this album he has songs and beats that don’t like something he’s done recently sonically (In too deep, IMY2 etc.)

    Drake has NEVER lead with a single that sounds like way to sexy either 🤣

  • Sep 5, 2021
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    SinceKumbaya

    Rappers all keep elements from their old music. Drake has ventured to different sound and flows within Drill, Afrobeats etc. Different pockets of pop, in this album he has songs and beats that don’t like something he’s done recently sonically (In too deep, IMY2 etc.)

    Drake has NEVER lead with a single that sounds like way to sexy either 🤣

    way 2 sexy is fire. I can usually find 1 or 2 songs per album from him I keep, but for the most part his albums sound exactly how you would expect. don't really hear anything new from him outside of him hopping on trends

    it's a popular criticism cause it's true, and you're on a Kanye forum and he's known for making every album sound different from the last one

  • Sep 5, 2021

    I just would like an album completely undisturbed from beef. We almost got that with CLB literally a month before it dropped and there we go

  • Sep 5, 2021

    Album length

  • Sep 5, 2021
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    JPEGMAFIA

    way 2 sexy is fire. I can usually find 1 or 2 songs per album from him I keep, but for the most part his albums sound exactly how you would expect. don't really hear anything new from him outside of him hopping on trends

    it's a popular criticism cause it's true, and you're on a Kanye forum and he's known for making every album sound different from the last one

    it's a popular criticism cause it's true,

    Because that’s how criticisms definitely work lol.

  • Sep 5, 2021
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    Not Like Josuke

    it's a popular criticism cause it's true,

    Because that’s how criticisms definitely work lol.

    it's not all the time, but if a lot of people have the same issue with something, there's probably some validity to it lol

  • Sep 5, 2021
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    JPEGMAFIA

    it's not all the time, but if a lot of people have the same issue with something, there's probably some validity to it lol

    Difference being a lot of criticisms only GET popular not because they’re actually valid, but because people don’t like him and those same people just parrot it endlessly.

    For example, the whole “culture vulture” thing.

  • Sep 5, 2021
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    JPEGMAFIA

    way 2 sexy is fire. I can usually find 1 or 2 songs per album from him I keep, but for the most part his albums sound exactly how you would expect. don't really hear anything new from him outside of him hopping on trends

    it's a popular criticism cause it's true, and you're on a Kanye forum and he's known for making every album sound different from the last one

    Do you like d*** rappers like Pusha t? Do you love Jay Z? What growth and exploration did you see from them that drake needs to aspire to? Actually any of the goats. When Nas dropped kings disease were people looking for him to do anything other than rap well over dope beats ?

    It seems like people take for granted how much different s*** drake does just because he’s been doing it for so long.

    Y’all want him to rap about climate change on hard rock instrumental. He makes rap and RnB at a high level.

  • Sep 5, 2021
    Gmbruh

    Literally any other song from any other album lol

    Off the top of my head, Trophies is N 2 Deep and since Pipe down is the most generic Drake song ever, you can pick almost any other bland ass Drake song to replace it lol Finesse for example

    N 2 Deep sounds like Trophies? You must be trolling lol

  • WESLEYS THEORY

    I think the issue was we were lead to believe it would be a “grand opus” with the trailer and insider info, but we just ended up with A Drake album not THE Drake album.

    This

  • Sep 5, 2021
    The Darkest Angel

    If yall don't hear an evolution from Room For Improvement all the way through CLB you're just lying or deaf

  • Sep 5, 2021
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    lock this

  • Sep 5, 2021
    DirtyTrees

    lock this

    facts this thread is s*** lol

  • Sep 5, 2021
    voodoo

    Subject matter and production (from time to time)

  • Sep 5, 2021
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    complacency, lemme expand on this.

    production, flows, cadence, delivery has largely been the same for the last 5 years.

    The Remorse, Knife Talk, No Friends, Way 2 Sexy, Girls Want Girls and more could have easily came out in 2018. The Remorse could be on More Life, just listen to Lose You. Knife Talk could go on any 21 Savage project.. No Friends could go on Scorpion, Way 2 Sexy could go on So Much Fun by Young Thug or any Future project in the past 5 years. CLB isn't giving us anything that feels truly new from Drake (except maybe Get Along Better).

    There's no hunger, no artistry, no new ideas being presented. He's just gotten lazy or maybe he's just uninspired but either way it doesn't really matter because he still gets praise for everything he puts out, he has no incentive to change or get better.

    Heat of the Moment, Furthest Thing, Worst Behavior, Vital, The Motion, Connect, Wu-Tang Forever, Madonna, Fire & Desire, Feel No Ways... these are some of his best songs because they actually bring something new and different to his sound.

    There's nothing wrong with the Drake sound but after years and years of doing it, it's just predictable and unexciting. it's not bad, just disappointing

  • Sep 5, 2021
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    LOSTintheABYSS

    That’s the thing

    It’s great to be fans of these artist but a lot just don’t keep it real

    If Donda was trash and CLB was superior I would’ve on here saying exactly that

    I’m not lying about liking his music. You’re a f***ing idiot. People can like music that you don’t. Donda isn’t subjectively better than CLB. YOU do not get to decide that. I like Donda but the subject matter is boring and is fake deep.

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    Lock this thread
    Op a c**

  • Sep 5, 2021

    Idk the music is just bad

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