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  • Feb 16, 2021
    rvi

    hes copy pasta if you didnt realize btw lol

  • Feb 16, 2021
    sniper

    yeah and this is what i hate about rock fans, its all some dumb circlejerk about how the white music is superior to the “shitty minority music”

    am i wrong?

    I mean I think this is true for some people but not true for all rock fans

  • Feb 16, 2021
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    Zeppelin stole basically everything

  • Feb 16, 2021
    Like a Camillimane

    at the end of the day when you spend enough hours listen to one genre of music no matter the era, artist or any of that it all starts to sound the same, there's only so much you can do with 12 notes and 40,000 years of people creating on instruments

    they was stealing sauce

  • Feb 16, 2021
    sniper

    yeah and this is what i hate about rock fans, its all some dumb circlejerk about how the white music is superior to the “shitty minority music”

    am i wrong?

    u a dumbass tbh

  • Feb 16, 2021
    Ooo

    Who’s being pretentious

    No idea lmfao

    niggas acting like s***tin on the beatles on ktt is rare or something. Like yall started it

    just give the beatles respect man wtf

    Like literally. Tired of people downplayin em cause they white or whatever

  • Feb 16, 2021
    bob

    I watched all of them, seemed very nitpicky especially on a forum built around a genre of sampling

    Their catalog is massive too but all those videos were using the same minuscule examples

    a lot of people dont know about this, just bringing more attention to the facts

  • Feb 16, 2021
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    sniper

    yeah and this is what i hate about rock fans, its all some dumb circlejerk about how the white music is superior to the “shitty minority music”

    am i wrong?

    Yes who tf is s***ting on “minority music” just give the beatles respect bro

  • Feb 16, 2021
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    Atlienz

    Zeppelin stole basically everything

    And im still gonna play Stairway to heaven

  • Feb 16, 2021
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    Sinewave

    “Primitive” is actually a great way to describe the Beatles. The Beatles were the quintessence of instrumental mediocrity. George Harrison was a pathetic guitarist, compared with the London guitarists of those days (Townshend of the Who, Richards of the Rolling Stones, Davies of the Kinks, Clapton, Beck and Page of the Yardbirds, and many others who were less famous but more original). The Beatles had completely missed the revolution of rock music (founded on a prominent use of the guitar) and were still trapped in the stereotypes of the easy-listening orchestras. Paul McCartney was a singer from the 1950s, who could not have possibly sounded more conventional. As a bassist, he was not worth the last of the rhythm and blues bassists (even though within the world of Merseybeat his style was indeed revolutionary). Ringo Starr played drums the way any kid of that time played it in his garage (even though he may ultimately be the only one of the four who had a bit of technical competence). Overall, the technique of the "Fab Four" was the same as that of many other easy-listening groups: sub-standard.

    Theirs were records of traditional songs crafted as they had been crafted for centuries, yet they served an immense audience, far greater than the audience of those who wanted to change the world, the hippies, freaks and protesters. Their fans ignored or abhorred the many rockers of the time who were experimenting with the suite format, who were composing long free-form tracks, who were using dissonance, who were radically changing the concept of the musical piece. The Beatles' fans thought, and some still think, that using trumpets in a rock song was a revolutionary event, that using background noises (although barely noticeable) was an even more revolutionary event, and that only great musical geniuses could vary so many styles in one album, precisely what many rock musicians were doing all over the world, employing much more sophisticated stylistic excursions.

    While the Velvet Underground, Frank Zappa, the Doors, Pink Floyd and many others were composing long and daring suites worthy of avantgarde music, thus elevating rock music to art, the Beatles continued to yield three-minute songs built around a chorus. Beatlemania and its myth notwithstanding, Beatles fans went crazy for twenty seconds of trumpet, while the Velvet Underground were composing suites of chaos twenty minutes long. Actually, between noise and a trumpet, between twenty seconds and twenty minutes, there was an artistic difference of several degrees of magnitude. They were, musically, sociologically, politically, artistically, and ideologically, on different planets.

    Your issue here is thinking The Beatles need to be the poster boys of progressive rock music at the time. I really don't think anyone debates that. However The Beatles brought all those things to the FOREFRONT OF POP MUSIC. That is what separates them from the likes of Velvet Underground or Frank Zappa.

    They had quite possibly the biggest platform of all time musically and chose to f*** around with their recording, musical processes. No one is denying that there more, and better artists at the time that were experimenting, but NONE OF THEM had the platform that The Beatles had. The Beatles could have stayed playing 4 chord pop songs for the entirety of their career because that's what made them famous. But they didn't. They chose to quit performing live to spend time experimenting in the studio because they knew they had the platform to change POP MUSIC and push it in boundaries that most people haven't. You think the average Help! fan was going around listening to Zappa? F*** no.

  • Feb 16, 2021
    Worldpremiere_

    Yes who tf is s***ting on “minority music” just give the beatles respect bro

  • Feb 16, 2021
    kiddash3r

    And im still gonna play Stairway to heaven

  • Feb 16, 2021
    kiddash3r

    Thread reeks on both sides

  • Feb 16, 2021
    sniper

    yeah and this is what i hate about rock fans, its all some dumb circlejerk about how the white music is superior to the “shitty minority music”

    am i wrong?

    Show me who is doing that ITT

  • Feb 16, 2021
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    vagabonds

    deadass this is just pretentiousness: the thread

    liking the beatles is not pretentious they are the most popular musical group of the last 100 years lol

  • Feb 16, 2021
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    Anyone with a brain knows and is aware rock and roll is deeply rooted in black origins tf

  • Feb 16, 2021
    suzuki

    liking the beatles is not pretentious they are the most popular musical group of the last 100 years lol

    ok

  • Feb 16, 2021

    Just listen to the music you like its not that deep man

  • Feb 16, 2021
    Cam Skattebo Fan

    Anyone with a brain knows and is aware rock and roll is deeply rooted in black origins tf

    Like I get the type of people he is talking about

    I just don't think that's all or even most of rock fans lol

  • Feb 16, 2021
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    I will beat you to death.

  • Feb 16, 2021
    kiddash3r

    And im still gonna play Stairway to heaven

    Yea i still jam them, they at least made the most of what they stole lol

  • Feb 16, 2021
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    Woat john song imo. That celeb s*** was a nail in the coffin too

  • Feb 16, 2021
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    Worldpremiere_

    Woat john song imo. That celeb s*** was a nail in the coffin too

    oh my love was always the best cut on imagine

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