Lightsxo

5y

I appreciate Pinkerton now.

The notoriety this album seems to have - the kind of notoriety that makes some fans say it's superior to their debut - is often attributed to how sincere and brave Rivers Cuomo is in presenting himself as a complete emotional mess. I'd agree Pinkerton is a brave album, one that flaunted convention and expectation to fearlessly "do its own thing". On the other hand, I don't see it as a very sincere album.

The emotions are there, Cuomo puts himself into his character completely, but these are not songs about his actual life. He's singing about the life of a high school student, not his own. The Jen, Lynn and Catherine of "Tired of Sex" don't exist. The lesbian who broke his heart probably doesn't either. Why would an actual rockstar be impressed anyone listened to Green Day.

I know there is a series of interviews out there somewhere that explains how some of these songs are based on a p*** binge while recovering from an injury or something, and "The Good Life" makes a lot of sense with this in mind. Otherwise, Pinkerton is powerfully delivered but utter nonsense.

Charisma is charisma. The lyrics want to tell you one story, a story of a guy down on his luck trying to keep his cool, but there's a lot of charisma here. These songs have attitude, energy and, most of all, self-belief. This isn't an album by a bunch of nerds who are about to give up; it's genuinely exciting. Guess what, it turns out being powerfully delivered is enough for a Weezer album.

ithaka

5y

you know all the other ones?

ithaka

5y

love this demo... @HeyFella

has a little burndt jamb feel more laid back @grimes

you would love this one grimes it bangs lol

this one is amazing too

ithaka

5y

ok this is my early album 5 tracklist @HeyFella :

1 modern dukes (2002-07-02 version)
2 superstar (2002-07-02 version)
3 acapulco (2002-07-02 version)
4 queen of earth (2002-07-16 version)
5 mad kow (2002-07-02 version)
6 hey domingo! (2002-06-29 version)
7 untenable (2002-07-16 version)
8 blowin’ my stack
9 little songs (2002-07-02 version)
10 mansion of cardboard (2002-07-02 version)
11 lullaby (2002-07-02 version)
12 everybody wants a chance to feel all alone (acoustic office)
13 the organ player (2002-07-02 version)

you can try to playlist that with the youtube uploads of them? however you guys wanna consume it

wanted to cut down to 12 but acapulco is original and helps to set up queen of earth which is too out of the blue, very dark for weezer - for acapulco is necessary bc without it it’s hard to place queen of earth without having a weird mood but this order is really tight, tried space out the best between opening hard but keeping heavy hitters for later too so it’s well adjusted in flow

amazing set of solid songs all in all

@Womanpuncher69 if you wanna try that too, these are abandonned songs cut down to the best and put together from the early stages of working on what would become make believe, some great stuff there no skips tbh

artwork idk why not the mb background art?

or i could look for something new
or one of the other arts included in the booklet

what u guys say

Urameshii

5y

Yeah .. have I listened to them of course hadn’t heard the teal one mainly cuz of Africa cover but it’s really well done

G Roy

5y

Idk if it's just me but Untenable has a super early 00s skate punk vibe to it lol, really love it

Fella

5y

Wow that was fast. Thank you so much.

I remember liking the 6/25 version of Queen of Earth more but I’m not as familiar with the other one.

The Man

5y

Top 5 album ever

The Man

5y

Across the sea is real tho

Fella

5y

Wow this is crazy

Fella

5y

Wow this is crazy

Fella

5y

Wow that was fast. Thank you so much.

I remember liking the 6/25 version of Queen of Earth more but I’m not as familiar with the other one.

proper

5y

I remember when the song hash pipe came out I only heard the radio/video edit where they replace “hash pipe” w “half pipe” and thought it was a song about skateboarding

Fella

5y

I like Green a lot like this

1. Don’t Let Go
2. Photograph
3. Hash Pipe
4. Island In The Sun
5. Starlight
6. Knockdown Dragout
7. Smile
8. Teenage Victory Song
9. Always
10. O Girlfriend

proper

5y

hip hip

ithaka

5y

gonna make this a playlist and play it this way but i can already hear it in my head, certified masterpiece, altho maybe i would pick brightening day over teenage 🤔🤔

Fella

5y

Brightening Day might grow on me but mostly I found it kinda bland. Feels kinda like a demo or a rough draft.