Freight

4y

If I say, "The public isn't really f***ing with Kendrick's new album and the numbers prove it," or, "The public isn't listening to Kendrick's album as much as Future's album," those would be objective measures based on the consumption patterns.

But if I say, "Kendrick's album is artistically bad and the numbers prove it," or "Kendrick's album is worse than Future's album because it's streaming less," then those are 100% not objective statements

The problem is that the first two statements and the last two statements sound so similar that people can't tell the difference. People hear the first two statements and assume that what's being meant is the second two. Or that there's subtext in the objective statements implying something that's unobjective. And then you add in people's own emotional attachments and it makes the whole thing worse.

SHAQUILLE

4y

Rappers bragged about their own sales cause they were getting money from it

LaSean

4y

That last page is nothing but Drake stans throwing rocks then handing their hand.

LaSean

4y

That last page is nothing but Drake stans throwing rocks then handing their hand.

The Darkest Angel

4y

You're approaching the topic logically and Kendrick stans are emotional so they can't tell the difference. I'm not trying to sound like a d*** when I say that but that's clearly what's happening and I don't blame them for taking it personally but they need to understand no one is attacking them personally for saying the public isn't listening to this album like his past albums

thegreatdivine

4y

What's even more embarrassing about all the cope is how many of the people mad right now were here talking about how Kendrick would do 500-700k just days before the album dropped. They all had high commercial expectations for the album but when the album dropped and started underperforming, they got mad that everyone else remembered all their talk of the album performing a lot better than it ended up doing and started going at people for calling the album an underperformance based on those expectations.

Oblivion X

4y

Far too many paragraphs going on itt

F A L C O N I A

4y

they aint got much else going on in their life

The Darkest Angel

4y

You seen a Drake stan say this a few pages back and acting like you came up with it @coochieman

Freight

4y

People aren't really f***ing with Kendrick's album. That doesn't mean the album is bad. The ones that can't seem to understand that those two things aren't at odds with each other and why someone might find the first statement interesting but not give a s*** about the second...those people are the ones you should probably direct ableist slurs at.

And I'm not a Drake stan. Based on the numbers I don't really think the public f***ed with CLB as much as previous projects (just to a much much lesser extent than they aren't f***in with Mr Morale) and I'm also interested in how that might affect the next album's sales.

SWAN

4y

no, Drake makes street music

bigbelts

4y

What we doing here lol we can tell the difference between those statements and we can tell when those statements are being used as and underlying critique of an artist which is mainly what both those statements are usually being used for whether it's objective or not

The Darkest Angel

4y

You're approaching the topic logically and Kendrick stans are emotional so they can't tell the difference. I'm not trying to sound like a d*** when I say that but that's clearly what's happening and I don't blame them for taking it personally but they need to understand no one is attacking them personally for saying the public isn't listening to this album like his past albums

BRAVE

4y

It’s pretty interesting that the sales to quality discussion is only so heated, widespread and long winded this often when it comes to music

Goes back to the social identification we have with music. With other forms of art entertainment, numbers are seen as simply numbers with no perceived or disputed relation to anything else. But with music the sales topic elicits such strong emotions cause of the social relationship with artists

thegreatdivine

4y

I made like 10 posts going into painful detail about how much I love GKMC and I grew to love TPAB and how even though I think DAMN. is overhyped, it's still a really good album but because I also said I don't care for Kendrick's latest album and I said the album is clearly not what people are going back to based on its numbers and its performance compared to other recent high-profile releases, I've been called every name in the book and now anyone who cares about numbers at all is stupid and a nerd with no life lol. I promise you, If Kendrick's album was performing like Bad Bunny's album currently is, NONE OF THEM would be so angry. None.

They can tell that people aren't f***ing with this Kendrick album this time around and anything anybody says to reinforce that, either through numbers or just opinions, they'll get riled up. That's all that's been happening for these last 3 weeks.

Bobby Balenciaga

4y

Crazy how for years TPAB had “0 replay value” but now all of a sudden it does hmm

Freight

4y

Once you start believing the person across from you isn't arguing in good faith you immediately stop arguing in good faith yourself

bigbelts

4y

Bro what the f*** are you doing lmao we've both been in those threads and we know the purpose of the majority of those sales tweets. We don't have to play stupid in here