Feb 17, 2020
Americana 2well the industry is now gonna go down the drain
which means the indie market will either rise in the ashes or the commodification of music will eat up any desire to make music anymore
the desire to create music will never disappear, it is in our dna
if anything it will just weed out the people who do it for the wrong reasons
Feb 17, 2020·1 reply
nikedonWhy should there be a problem
Artists learned the game and now the labels are suffering financially.
- Feb 17, 2020·1 replyRemark
Artists learned the game and now the labels are suffering financially.
But why is this news proof of the label hurting financially?
- Feb 17, 2020·2 repliesnikedon
But why is this news proof of the label hurting financially?
Why else would a company who has been successful private for so long all of sudden go public and have to deal with a board of stockholders.
This isn't exact proof their suffering financially but there's something to be said for them doing this.
- Feb 17, 2020·edited·1 replyRemark
Why else would a company who has been successful private for so long all of sudden go public and have to deal with a board of stockholders.
This isn't exact proof their suffering financially but there's something to be said for them doing this.
Why do successful private companies go public? I mean is that really a hard question....? Money.
Owners of successful private companies decide to go public when they deem the control of their company less valuable than the s*** ton of cash they’re gonna get by selling off their shares.
Feb 17, 2020·1 reply
soccerfanjAll they do is cause bubbles and are the worst investors on Wall Street
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/the-great-american-bubble-machine-195229/
Please educate yourself. Watch the movie inside job or something else
I know all of that.
Coorelation doesn't mean cause.
Look up all their investments.
not worth my time arguing in here.
- Feb 17, 2020·1 replynikedon
Why do successful private companies go public? I mean is that really a hard question....? Money.
Owners of successful private companies decide to go public when they deem the control of their company less valuable than the s*** ton of cash they’re gonna get by selling off their shares.
I get what you're saying but if your company is "fine" though why go public and sell off shares after being private for so long?
I think it's obvious the owners looked at the company and see it more worth to bail out than keep it in-house.
Feb 17, 2020not only do record labels own your music stock investors do too now
imagine more than one man owning your music- Feb 17, 2020·1 replyRemark
I get what you're saying but if your company is "fine" though why go public and sell off shares after being private for so long?
I think it's obvious the owners looked at the company and see it more worth to bail out than keep it in-house.
Money.
You sell it off because you want to get paid like a f***ing king lol. For a lot of these successful private entities, getting bought out is the most profitable moment in their owners lives lol.
A lot of successful private companies go public with literally 0 existing financial problem lol, #1 owners get PAID and #2 you get access to way more funding to develop your business
- OPFeb 17, 2020THE NEWS
I know all of that.
Coorelation doesn't mean cause.
Look up all their investments.
not worth my time arguing in here.
Feb 17, 2020·1 replyYoutube taking over
Dey just gotta find a way to combat the apple-iPod-iPhone music quality- Feb 17, 2020·1 reply
Been waiting years for this. Now if an album that I think is gonna do well drops on a Friday I can buy stock Thursday night and actually profit on following music for once
Feb 17, 2020nikedonMoney.
You sell it off because you want to get paid like a f***ing king lol. For a lot of these successful private entities, getting bought out is the most profitable moment in their owners lives lol.
A lot of successful private companies go public with literally 0 existing financial problem lol, #1 owners get PAID and #2 you get access to way more funding to develop your business
Smartest nigga ITT tbh
Feb 17, 2020PlanktonBeen waiting years for this. Now if an album that I think is gonna do well drops on a Friday I can buy stock Thursday night and actually profit on following music for once
- Feb 17, 2020·1 reply
JayzintherangeHonestly, I feel like the only thing that could make music exciting again is a good platform. something like tumblr meets MySpace meets Apple Music. We need something that takes advantage of all this technology we have. Apple doesn’t even show album covers any more that s*** is frustrating.
Wdym Apple doesn’t show album covers?
- Feb 17, 2020·1 replybobby j
Wdym Apple doesn’t show album covers?
Nah I mean on the lock screen.
Feb 17, 2020·2 repliesYour summary seemed so bad that I read the article you linked and then looked into it more from other sources. The Rolling Stone article isn't the best by the way. Variety has done a better job at explaining the situation.
Anyway, Tencent is just diversifying itself, as usual but it did so by buying 10% of Universal, not Warner. Universal has grown 10B since 2017. And almost 5x what it was worth in 2013 (7B). Tencent got a good deal since they were buying in "bulk", 3B instead of 3.3 or so. That deal was because well, 10% is a minority stake. Tencent is literally only diversifying its money with that investment. They don't have any control over Universal.
Warner just decided to follow into Universal's footsteps seeing how successful it has been for them. The link between Warner and Tencent? Well, the former is actually the one with an investment in the latter.
The actual numbers for the IPO haven't been revealed yet so there's not much worth talking about. What's interesting is that both Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley are in on it. They've been rivals since forever. GS is mostly generating its wealth through trading revenue which isn't sustainable forever meanwhile MS is for investment bankers, it's safe.
I think a lot of people are about to make a lot of money but with the figures Warner has shown so far I think the share price may start lower than they expect, even though they haven't shared their expected price yet.
- Feb 17, 2020Jayzintherange
Nah I mean on the lock screen.
I do feel like da older iPods n iPhones 5c 4 nano classic had better sound chips
Or is it the mixing of songs changing each year?
Feb 17, 2020JayzintherangeYea but didn’t Netflix get Scorsese
You won
- Feb 17, 2020
FahimWahhh most artists aren't taking bad deals anymore we can't exploit them waahhh 😢
- Feb 17, 2020·1 replyVENDETTA
Youtube taking over
Dey just gotta find a way to combat the apple-iPod-iPhone music qualityThink so? I mean Youtube will always be the place to go for music videos. But other than that?
- OPFeb 17, 2020Coffee Nerd
Your summary seemed so bad that I read the article you linked and then looked into it more from other sources. The Rolling Stone article isn't the best by the way. Variety has done a better job at explaining the situation.
Anyway, Tencent is just diversifying itself, as usual but it did so by buying 10% of Universal, not Warner. Universal has grown 10B since 2017. And almost 5x what it was worth in 2013 (7B). Tencent got a good deal since they were buying in "bulk", 3B instead of 3.3 or so. That deal was because well, 10% is a minority stake. Tencent is literally only diversifying its money with that investment. They don't have any control over Universal.
Warner just decided to follow into Universal's footsteps seeing how successful it has been for them. The link between Warner and Tencent? Well, the former is actually the one with an investment in the latter.
The actual numbers for the IPO haven't been revealed yet so there's not much worth talking about. What's interesting is that both Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley are in on it. They've been rivals since forever. GS is mostly generating its wealth through trading revenue which isn't sustainable forever meanwhile MS is for investment bankers, it's safe.
I think a lot of people are about to make a lot of money but with the figures Warner has shown so far I think the share price may start lower than they expect, even though they haven't shared their expected price yet.
I was only stating stuff that I thought was important, and you know niggas on here don’t read..... however I should have look led for other sites.... variety does write top tier articles
- Feb 17, 2020
Would not put a single penny into their stocks
Feb 17, 2020JayzintherangeReserved first page on a possibly paradigm shifting moment.
Third page for me
- Feb 17, 2020Coffee Nerd
Your summary seemed so bad that I read the article you linked and then looked into it more from other sources. The Rolling Stone article isn't the best by the way. Variety has done a better job at explaining the situation.
Anyway, Tencent is just diversifying itself, as usual but it did so by buying 10% of Universal, not Warner. Universal has grown 10B since 2017. And almost 5x what it was worth in 2013 (7B). Tencent got a good deal since they were buying in "bulk", 3B instead of 3.3 or so. That deal was because well, 10% is a minority stake. Tencent is literally only diversifying its money with that investment. They don't have any control over Universal.
Warner just decided to follow into Universal's footsteps seeing how successful it has been for them. The link between Warner and Tencent? Well, the former is actually the one with an investment in the latter.
The actual numbers for the IPO haven't been revealed yet so there's not much worth talking about. What's interesting is that both Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley are in on it. They've been rivals since forever. GS is mostly generating its wealth through trading revenue which isn't sustainable forever meanwhile MS is for investment bankers, it's safe.
I think a lot of people are about to make a lot of money but with the figures Warner has shown so far I think the share price may start lower than they expect, even though they haven't shared their expected price yet.
do you feel the points in op are still valid