hundreds of outstanding orders — it doesnt matter whether its the majority or not. literally Fader was gonna publish a story on the hundreds of people who never got anything. i know frank is not personally at fault for those hundreds of orders no one thinks hes doing it on purpose lol they just want an answer on their outstanding orders. yeah those who never received anything no communication should have just called the bank. that doesnt mean that he can just move on from it …
Like even if OP was mad that Frank's new business audience feels like a huge departure from who his fanbase is and what they can afford would that be such a crazy thing ?
Like I remember when Kanye started Yeezy the first thing that sticked with me is that he wanted to keep things affordable and as available as possible. Knowing that you didn't reach the point that you're in without the help of a devoted fanbase who for some of them threw some prolly precious dollars on things you put out should be the first red flag on launching things that would exclude almost all of them. And I'm not saying that he should always move according to who his fanbase is or whatever but completly ignoring it just seems dumb to me
I’m with you @op
Frank has turned into the living and breathing bourgeoisie that he once so brilliantly described in Super Rich Kids. “Couldn’t buy a yacht because he’d get seasick” could literally be a lyric on that song.
Selling diamonds for a mil is not for the working-class, it’s for the bourgeoisie. This in itself is something. However, after the terrible handling of his previous items to his core fan base, this is a slap in the face. There are people still waiting for vinyl Frank!
Yeah that quote is some f***ery from Frank smh
Oh please
His whole career has been rejecting standards in the industry like materialism and digging into a whole persona geared towards relatability and being emotionally grounded
"His whole career has been rejecting standards in the industry like materialism" idk bout this Frank had obsession with cars that most fans were never gonna cop and fashion too.
Frank may be quiet but his materialistic nature was always there even his channel orange days bro use to have a lot of stuff.
This is a kanye west forum so ur wrong
This site s*** on him for years for it so no he's right
Like even if OP was mad that Frank's new business audience feels like a huge departure from who his fanbase is and what they can afford would that be such a crazy thing ?
Like I remember when Kanye started Yeezy the first thing that sticked with me is that he wanted to keep things affordable and as available as possible. Knowing that you didn't reach the point that you're in without the help of a devoted fanbase who for some of them threw some prolly precious dollars on things you put out should be the first red flag on launching things that would exclude almost all of them. And I'm not saying that he should always move according to who his fanbase is or whatever but completly ignoring it just seems dumb to me
I don’t think artists have an obligation to cater to their fanbase
If Frank wants to do rich people s*** for the rest of the life that sucks and I’m
upset but it’s his life and who am
I to get to decide whether that’s “acceptable”
it ain't progress if all the BIPOC elite is doing is just perpetuating the same s*** the white man was, under a new smile
Can’t wait for this diversity quota to end, to see that capitalism perpetuates the original problem of inequality and poverty. Unfortunately it’s going to take a black women to be president, an intersex person to be on Forbes etc. for some people to see that the system is still broken.
I dont hear any of these complaints about Drake, Kendrick Cole or Durk merch
J Cole got a ton of criticism for the botched KOD vinyl release where it took over 2 years for people to get refunds. UMG were actively blocking the cards of people who were doing chargebacks too, so that you couldn’t purchase from their platforms again
What about Super Rich Kids?
That's literally a song critiquing the lifestyle of Super Rich Kids lmao
even that is through the lens of relationships. saying that can't be replaced by stuff, but something tells me his obsession with cars, jewellery and art on every other song tells me he's never been opposed the idea of material goods
I’m with you @op
Frank has turned into the living and breathing bourgeoisie that he once so brilliantly described in Super Rich Kids. “Couldn’t buy a yacht because he’d get seasick” could literally be a lyric on that song.
Selling diamonds for a mil is not for the working-class, it’s for the bourgeoisie. This in itself is something. However, after the terrible handling of his previous items to his core fan base, this is a slap in the face. There are people still waiting for vinyl Frank!
Why do y’all keep saying he “turned into” this? Y’all must truly be oblivious to the fact that this is plenty of niggas actual goal to become lmao
Why do y’all keep saying he “turned into” this? Y’all must truly be oblivious to the fact that this is plenty of niggas actual goal to become lmao
Jadakiss showed me he can keep it real while being rich
J Cole got a ton of criticism for the botched KOD vinyl release where it took over 2 years for people to get refunds. UMG were actively blocking the cards of people who were doing chargebacks too, so that you couldn’t purchase from their platforms again
Alright 3/4 ain’t so bad then lol
Threads like these sucks cause they end up getting poisonous with other topics.
Frank being a s***ty guy is Frank but tryna somehow make it like he betrayed a brand YOU invented for him based in politics YOU believe is unfair.
Frank is in the wrong but you're argument is not good at all
even that is through the lens of relationships. saying that can't be replaced by stuff, but something tells me his obsession with cars, jewellery and art on every other song tells me he's never been opposed the idea of material goods
facts
That song is not even explicitly a criticism
Threads like these sucks cause they end up getting poisonous with other topics.
Frank being a s***ty guy is Frank but tryna somehow make it like he betrayed a brand YOU invented for him based in politics YOU believe is unfair.
Frank is in the wrong but you're argument is not good at all
yup
even that is through the lens of relationships. saying that can't be replaced by stuff, but something tells me his obsession with cars, jewellery and art on every other song tells me he's never been opposed the idea of material goods
Dawg even so, if he funded this business off money from products that weren't even shipped yet then that's some f***ery.
I'm not saying he can't pursue this area of business, I'm saying if he's pursuing it based on money he ripped of from fans then that's BS