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  • Aug 22, 2024
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    DrJ559

    Let’s go, at what point is it too much a.i?

    Some of these different versions of songs (old school version of Not Like Us) are too good. Puts a lot of people music to shame

    Will live music go out of style eventually if a.i music gets more popular?

    Sorry this took a minute. Went camping with the fam and other stuff.

    Well DrJ559, I think the idea of “too much ai” is the wrong question to be asking. Mostly because at this stage in the ai race it’s going to be here and going to say. So I think the more important questions are “does it feel soulfull” ? Meaning does it provoke thought and intrigue the way anything else would? Does it make me feel anything?

    So to get it out of the way,
    Copyright law is incredibly outdated and not at all fitting for contemporary use of media. As of right now and for the foreseeable future copyright law is incredibly flimsy.

    Ideally what needs to happen is for these artists is to have the rights over their personal AI’s so when other people use it they can be in control of who, how, and how much money they receive for it.

    Now as far as its use in music it’s pretty much whatever. In the right hands i believe it can be interesting. I truly don’t care if anyone uses it. The real litmus test is how it’s used and who’s using it and the context it’s being used in. Brian Eno been using ai programs since the 70’s

    Is Kanye using Ai vocals over a Cyhi ref lazy? Yes. Is it interesting? No. But even if he didn’t use it we’d still be saying it was lazy and uninteresting because ultimately that verse isn’t that good (to me I guess).

    And let’s make this abundantly clear, pop music for the masses is already Ai without it actually being ai. It’s engineered by a large group of writers who are checking off boxes for words and phrases that are trendy. AR’s using test groups to decide what needs to be changed and what it needs to sound like to get maximum replay ability. At this point most of the music being made might as well be Ai.

    The only metric I grade anything on is soul. Regardless of Ai or no Ai. I've listened to many Ai projects and find some of them to be incredibly compelling and soulfull. The others? Eh. Exactly how I feel about other non ai music.

    John Cage made music that was chance controlled - chords - silence - notes - all determined by randomness. Seems like he would have loved Ai.

    William S Burroughs taught David Bowie the cut up method. Leaving his lyrics up by chance and randomness.

    Idk. Seems like the natural evolution of art creating. Just another tool.

  • Aug 22, 2024
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    These aren't permanent grillz so he can take them off lol

    Let me use it as an excuse as to why he doesn't wanna record his own verses anymore

  • Aug 22, 2024
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    She giving b******s & I applied

  • Aug 22, 2024
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    bring back the ye bridge on 530

  • Aug 22, 2024

    Husband sound Like a dream song

  • Aug 22, 2024

    That sample in lifestyle annoying af

  • Aug 22, 2024
    bluegreenred

    bring back the ye bridge on 530

    Og First listen atm

    Ain’t heard the updated version either

  • Aug 22, 2024
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    Sorry this took a minute. Went camping with the fam and other stuff.

    Well DrJ559, I think the idea of “too much ai” is the wrong question to be asking. Mostly because at this stage in the ai race it’s going to be here and going to say. So I think the more important questions are “does it feel soulfull” ? Meaning does it provoke thought and intrigue the way anything else would? Does it make me feel anything?

    So to get it out of the way,
    Copyright law is incredibly outdated and not at all fitting for contemporary use of media. As of right now and for the foreseeable future copyright law is incredibly flimsy.

    Ideally what needs to happen is for these artists is to have the rights over their personal AI’s so when other people use it they can be in control of who, how, and how much money they receive for it.

    Now as far as its use in music it’s pretty much whatever. In the right hands i believe it can be interesting. I truly don’t care if anyone uses it. The real litmus test is how it’s used and who’s using it and the context it’s being used in. Brian Eno been using ai programs since the 70’s

    Is Kanye using Ai vocals over a Cyhi ref lazy? Yes. Is it interesting? No. But even if he didn’t use it we’d still be saying it was lazy and uninteresting because ultimately that verse isn’t that good (to me I guess).

    And let’s make this abundantly clear, pop music for the masses is already Ai without it actually being ai. It’s engineered by a large group of writers who are checking off boxes for words and phrases that are trendy. AR’s using test groups to decide what needs to be changed and what it needs to sound like to get maximum replay ability. At this point most of the music being made might as well be Ai.

    The only metric I grade anything on is soul. Regardless of Ai or no Ai. I've listened to many Ai projects and find some of them to be incredibly compelling and soulfull. The others? Eh. Exactly how I feel about other non ai music.

    John Cage made music that was chance controlled - chords - silence - notes - all determined by randomness. Seems like he would have loved Ai.

    William S Burroughs taught David Bowie the cut up method. Leaving his lyrics up by chance and randomness.

    Idk. Seems like the natural evolution of art creating. Just another tool.

    Agree with all of that except that the Sky City verse isn't interesting. It's an old song that leaked that fans have been clamoring for because of the leak; rather than rework it, it just releases with an AI vocal that shows the seams. Is this what fans want? Is this the only way to get the "old Kanye" that so many critics crave?

  • Aug 22, 2024
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    Gm groypers

  • DEL634

    Gm groypers

  • Aug 22, 2024
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    Thug goin in

  • Aug 22, 2024
    lnstinct

    Thug goin in

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    Aug 22, 2024
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    if I LET GO

  • Aug 22, 2024
    lil ufo

    if I LET GO

  • Aug 22, 2024
    lnstinct

    Thug goin in

  • Aug 22, 2024
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    Kdav

    can someone plz tell me what ye says at 1:38 on Forever

    s***big booty b**** I know who paid for it

  • Aug 22, 2024
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    bluegreenred

    bring back the ye bridge on 530

    Nah chipmunk goated

  • Aug 22, 2024
    lnstinct

    She giving b******s & I applied

    Yeah this bar sounds like he is applying to give b******s

  • Aug 22, 2024
    Yevin

    s***big booty b**** I know who paid for it

    Nah that’s on River yevin

  • Aug 22, 2024
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    Vultures 2 better than
    MMTBS and FATD

  • Aug 22, 2024

    take me to your river

  • Aug 22, 2024
    Salad

    Vultures 2 better than
    MMTBS and FATD

    Vultures 2 better than
    Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band, The Dark Side of the Moon, Pet Sounds, Nevermind, Revolver, What’s Going On, Exile on Main St., Thriller, Rumours, OK Computer, Highway 61 Revisited, London Calling, Led Zeppelin IV, Purple Rain, The Velvet Underground & Nico, Born to Run, Abbey Road, Blue, Are You Experienced, To Pimp a Butterfly, The Joshua Tree, Blood on the Tracks, The Wall, Innervisions, A Love Supreme, The White Album, Kind of Blue, Back in Black, My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy, Good Kid, M.A.A.D City, Illmatic, Songs in the Key of Life, The Chronic, Led Zeppelin II, Electric Ladyland, Off the Wall, Born in the U.S.A. and Blonde

  • Aug 22, 2024

    SKY CITY É FENOMENAL

    TE AMO KANYE

    PARTE DO TY DOLLA SIGN É ABSURDAMENTE BOA PQP

  • Aug 22, 2024

    I ALWAYS LOVE UR COMPANYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

  • Aug 22, 2024
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    VULTURES 2 > UTOPIA

    NO CAP NERDS

    IN BRASIL.

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