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  • May 28, 2024
    soapmanwun

    do you agree that it's a bad thing?

    I think it's the way music across all genres has been made for decades. I really just think it's silly to try to discredit established songwriters simply because they didn't write ALL their s*** entirely by themselves. That's where I stand in all of this.

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    it’s your f***in birthday

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    Lebron interview just got even more embarrassing, they were gassing him up over Mob Ties

  • May 28, 2024
    maxx

    back to back - nav prod and pen

    I know he produced it… but since when did nav pen back to back. 😂

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    deleteduser579

    is the top tier album in the room with us right now

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    SignedTwice

    Lebron interview just got even more embarrassing, they were gassing him up over Mob Ties

    Is it not a good song or

  • May 28, 2024
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    Revan

    This is not really true, though there are exceptions. The OVO writing boot camp is unique, I think only Dr Dre can compare.

    The same OVO writing bootcamp where Drake has written for PARTYNEXTDOOR, Majid Jordan, Baka & dvsn?

  • Viewsofviews

    Now everyone a Vory fan 😂

    Now he's got the most elite pen in music.

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    hes gonna force vory to make a statement, watch

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    OGLeveledUp

    Is it not a good song or

    I think it is and that’s why this hurts drake as a rapper

  • May 28, 2024
    Zero

    hes gonna force vory to make a statement, watch

    No, he's not. That's on Vory. They worked together once, 6 years ago.

  • May 28, 2024
    deleteduser579

    they were waiting for this thread to die out so they can make a couple snarky posts and act like they defended their papi to their last breath

    they do this every thread that gets quarantined into here

    Then The drake fans can’t even call out the stans for acting crazy because then we’re team kdot for some reason lmao.

  • May 28, 2024
    Shin Chan

    Drake didn’t even write 2 of his worst tracks, this actually a W tbh

    we not gonna lie and call mob ties bad

  • May 28, 2024

    IG caption should be insane

  • May 28, 2024
    Lmfao

    I better never hear this b**** ass nigga Drake call himself an “MC” again

    Mob ties is a mc song to u ? Show me a reference for his apm/pm songs or something like Middle of the Ocean

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    SignedTwice

    I think it is and that’s why this hurts drake as a rapper

    The verse is Drake. The cadence/flow/pre-chorus/chorus are Vory. How does it hurt Drake as a rapper?

  • May 28, 2024
    Viewsofviews

    Now everyone a Vory fan 😂

  • deleteduser579

    it’s your f***in birthday

    Biggest Drake stan on KTT2 right here.

  • May 28, 2024
    Whatcouldgowrong

    those ain't references. Just songs drake recorded and cut from projects.

    I don't believe it crodie.

    Dumbass. We literally have interviews of PND and Majid saying Drake gave them songs

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    thegreatdivine

    The verse is Drake. The cadence/flow/pre-chorus/chorus are Vory. How does it hurt Drake as a rapper?

    Sneaking flow in there like that’s not half (arguably more) of what makes a good rapper

  • May 28, 2024
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    Revan

    Lol

    As long as you pen one bar you're good

    If you're putting out so much music that you need other people to give you the hook, melody and bars you should put out less music and focus on quality. This is Drake's biggest problem, he puts out so much low effort music but still wants to be "respected" and viewed a certain way.

    What is low effort music ?

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    thegreatdivine

    The same OVO writing bootcamp where Drake has written for PARTYNEXTDOOR, Majid Jordan, Baka & dvsn?

    Yes.

    Also, if Drake didn't brag about being an elite writer no one would care that he's rap Milly Vanilly. He brought the criticism on himself.

    The greats in rap write their own music, there's nothing you can do to change that.

  • May 28, 2024
    SignedTwice

    I think it is and that’s why this hurts drake as a rapper

    It shouldnt tbh, it lyrics are different when u play the songs next to each other. Yea the chorus is the same and flow, but this happens in music making. Its crazy that ppl think drake is the only rapper to do this

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    yall can’t have it both ways

    if one of Drake’s shining accomplishments people want to use when comparing to Cole or Kendrick is that he writes the majority of his songs which includes a more versatile range of sounds than the other two

    it definitely hurts him being put in those top lists if more comes out

    That has nothing to do with him as a commercial popular artist or any metrics that pertain to it (sales, streams, etc). idk why ppl are backtracking and pretending like it doesn’t matter since its not a “personal” or “timestamp” song

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    QALF

    What is low effort music ?

    CLB
    FATD