deleteduser579

2y

see how you niggas downplay everything?

Mr. “Got the Billboard melodies” isn’t writing his melodies? this doesn’t matter at all, right?

deleteduser579

2y

no point in a thread

you’re just gonna get Euros and people that got into hip-hop post 2015 telling you that authenticity in songwriting doesn’t matter and everything is okay as long as the music just sounds good

IonHodx

2y

· edited

https://krakenfiles.com/view/BDmC9Qkl1K/file.html

(PND - Ratchet Happy Birthday)

No thread?

serenade

2y

the only difference in the snippet is vory saying "get rid of these b****es" and "hire a shooter", so there's a difference of about three words. maybe drake wrote the verses himself, it's hard to say without having the full reference track.

deleteduser579

2y

like they really just have no shame

when the Jumbo ref leaked it was “it was obviously a Yachty song the entire time 😏”

just zero integrity whatsoever

deleteduser579

2y

no point in a thread

you’re just gonna get Euros and people that got into hip-hop post 2015 telling you that authenticity in songwriting doesn’t matter and everything is okay as long as the music just sounds good

Thizzer

2y

I literally have no bet in this fight I'm being objective and fact based. This song specifically is melody based, vory doesn't write, he does melody with producers. Hooks I have no problem with getting help with well melodic hooks anyway, if this was one of his super rap tracks then I'd be in your corner more but I knew of vorys involvement since I know how to read credits years ago

deleteduser579

2y

no point in a thread

you’re just gonna get Euros and people that got into hip-hop post 2015 telling you that authenticity in songwriting doesn’t matter and everything is okay as long as the music just sounds good

Zenitsu Agatsuma

2y

Drake really had ghostwriters since forever. Disappointing.

deleteduser579

2y

no point in a thread

you’re just gonna get Euros and people that got into hip-hop post 2015 telling you that authenticity in songwriting doesn’t matter and everything is okay as long as the music just sounds good

BRAVE

2y

God this nigga’s music became so negative and low vibrational over the years

SpiderMan

2y

Super old and Vory sucks

Thizzer

2y

Na it's pretty easy to tell, because since the start he always has a tell within his raps that's It's HIM even in songs he writes for others

JeffersonSteelflex

2y

Nah it’s only for the trap/ATL inspired songs. When he raps & sings in the style he knows, you can tell it’s 100% him. His best music are those types of songs

BRAVE

2y

God this nigga’s music became so negative and low vibrational over the years

Jbreezyondeck

2y

I really don’t know how to feel about all these reference tracks. Drake has a great pen and I am always of the opinion that hip hop should embrace collaboration but the fact that it seems like this happens so often to him as of late is just not a good look, especially when the songs are kind of whatever in the first place mostly

serenade

2y

what are you asserting then? that drake wrote mob ties then vory did the reference track?

Thizzer

2y

I'm saying vory did the melody around the topic drake gave him and the producer, drake got it back then did the rest, it's what usually happens with songs like these

Free YoungBoy

2y

This is crazy cause I remember the Lebron interview and Drake was talking about how losing the Pusha beef got him in a zone and inspired him to write this.

Fakest rapper of all time for real lol

insertcoolnamehere

2y

They said one of #Da5 tracks was gon touch in depth on the ghostwriters

Thizzer

2y

I'm saying vory did the melody around the topic drake gave him and the producer, drake got it back then did the rest, it's what usually happens with songs like these

JeffersonSteelflex

2y

Nah it’s only for the trap/ATL inspired songs. When he raps & sings in the style he knows, you can tell it’s 100% him. His best music are those types of songs