May 28, 2024·1 reply
Classiqueis it confirmed it's only been hooks? im not taking anything away from kendrick because he does have one of the greatest pens of his generation but where there's smoke there's fire
Nothing can be 100% confirmed with how the industry is but aside from a few hooks that I don’t think he rapped or sung by himself, there’s been no evidence to show for him having writers.
On the other hand, Dot has been proven to be ghostwriting for people close to him multiple times. References for Keem, Q and Rock. He wrote Jay Rocks verse on Money Trees.
May 28, 2024·1 replySlept Onhttps://hiphopdx.com/news/quentin-miller-nas-ghostwriting-rumors-explanation
Quentin says different
Quit s***ting on legends to defend pedo papi ya minimum wage bumQM said he was there for ideas, idk what you have convinced yourself an idea in music is but its subject a bar or a flow. things nas would then use or not use in a song.
- May 28, 2024
JeffersonSteelflexHere’s the thing, these songs aren’t even Drake best songs for that reason. The ones where he puts HIS pen to it are the timeless records instead of songs like this and Jumbo where you can tell he just wants to sound trendy.
There’s nothing wrong with collaboration but him and Ye have that issue of them sounding awkward over these songs for this specific reason.
I can't fault him for that. His sound would have gotten very stale very quickly for how much music he puts out if he didn't make these kinds of songs and for how outside-of-his-comfort-zone some of those songs are, he nails their execution way better than anyone else can.
My thing is this. If in 2024, there are people who still legitimately believe that their favorite rappers have never gotten ideas, concepts and lines from sources outside themselves on songs across their entire careers then that's on them. I won't be the one to ruin that fantasy and burst their bubble. Some rap fans need that delusion to remain in love with the art form and I get that.
As for me, Drake has long established himself as a songwriter. His first cheque from the industry was as a teenager writing for Dr. Dre. He's written entire songs for at least a dozen artists and writes damn near all his s*** himself. For someone who churns out as much music as he does, it's nothing short of impressive.
If niggas don't wanna rate him in their GOAT lists or whatever because of that, fair enough. Personally, I couldn't give a f*** because I know all this s*** is WWE anyways.
May 28, 2024·1 replySlept Onhttps://hiphopdx.com/news/quentin-miller-nas-ghostwriting-rumors-explanation
Quentin says different
Quit s***ting on legends to defend pedo papi ya minimum wage bumrapradar.com/2015/07/24/quentin-miller-denies-ghostwriting-for-drake
And he also denied writing for Drake in case anyone forgot. Unless he's walked back his statement since (which would contradict himself and ruin his credibility) he has confirmed the ghostwriter rumor is debunked
- May 28, 2024·3 repliesLongLiveHipHop
QM said he was there for ideas, idk what you have convinced yourself an idea in music is but its subject a bar or a flow. things nas would then use or not use in a song.
Bouncing ideas not the same as writing the whole damn song like the one in OP
- May 28, 2024Slept On
https://hiphopdx.com/news/quentin-miller-nas-ghostwriting-rumors-explanation
Quentin says different
Quit s***ting on legends to defend pedo papi ya minimum wage bumlol look at last reply to you from @LongLiveHipHop im not defending drake im just saying everyone has help it's not unique to a couple guys
- May 28, 2024Slept On
Bouncing ideas not the same as writing the whole damn song like the one in OP
You're right, an idea for or about a song, probably has nothing to do with the song. I see my mistake.
- May 28, 2024Slept On
Bouncing ideas not the same as writing the whole damn song like the one in OP
Listen to Too Late and listen to Mob Ties. Drake write his 2nd verse on his own, no Vory at all. You are spreading lies saying "the whole damn song"
- May 28, 2024The Darkest Angel
https://rapradar.com/2015/07/24/quentin-miller-denies-ghostwriting-for-drake/
And he also denied writing for Drake in case anyone forgot. Unless he's walked back his statement since (which would contradict himself and ruin his credibility) he has confirmed the ghostwriter rumor is debunked
QM lost his leg over this s*** lmao
Where the reference tracks for Nas and Kendrick?
Cuz there’s a bunch of ones from Quentin to Drake
May 28, 2024AvalancheDrake not writing his s*** wouldn't be an issue if he stayed in his lane as a pop artist and if he and his fans didn't claim that he was part of the GOAT conversation in rap. You can't be in the Big 3 which is a hip-hop category if you don't even write your s*** and if you have thousands of reference tracks needed to help you.
Drake is disqualified from the conversation when it comes to rap and hip-hop. It's over.
yup
- May 28, 2024Slept On
Bouncing ideas not the same as writing the whole damn song like the one in OP
he knows that
May 28, 2024it’s over
- May 28, 2024
JbreezyondeckI’ll just say this
Think Drake lost the ability to claim #1 OAT after 2015 (fair or not) that has done irreparable damage to his writing credit. From there the last two beefs combined with the amount of tracks floating out there is really starting to make it hard to objectively place him in the top 5. He’s still my favorite artist and I have no doubt his most intimate work was through him, but I can’t argue as people decide to knock him further and further down the list
thank you for being the only honest and fair fan in here in 15 pages
May 28, 2024·1 replyAnother one
- May 28, 2024WESLEYS THEORY
Nothing can be 100% confirmed with how the industry is but aside from a few hooks that I don’t think he rapped or sung by himself, there’s been no evidence to show for him having writers.
On the other hand, Dot has been proven to be ghostwriting for people close to him multiple times. References for Keem, Q and Rock. He wrote Jay Rocks verse on Money Trees.
yeah kendrick's written for several people and probably there's instances of it we don't know about for all we know when black hippy was super tight and releasing a ton of music he was helping some of them with their songs
- May 28, 2024Jbreezyondeck
I’ll just say this
Think Drake lost the ability to claim #1 OAT after 2015 (fair or not) that has done irreparable damage to his writing credit. From there the last two beefs combined with the amount of tracks floating out there is really starting to make it hard to objectively place him in the top 5. He’s still my favorite artist and I have no doubt his most intimate work was through him, but I can’t argue as people decide to knock him further and further down the list
most sane Drake fan OAT
May 28, 2024AvalancheDrake not writing his s*** wouldn't be an issue if he stayed in his lane as a pop artist and if he and his fans didn't claim that he was part of the GOAT conversation in rap. You can't be in the Big 3 which is a hip-hop category if you don't even write your s*** and if you have thousands of reference tracks needed to help you.
Drake is disqualified from the conversation when it comes to rap and hip-hop. It's over.
It’s, grippy
- May 28, 2024·2 repliesThe Darkest Angel
Cash Cobain confirmed it was AI. Let's not start ignoring facts to fit the narrative. The Yachty and Vory songs are on 2 songs when he's dropped 60+ in the last 3 years
Do you actually believe someone took time out of their day to develop a Cash Cobain AI model?
May 28, 2024·1 reply- May 28, 2024
At this point you can just go to any Drake song, look at the writing credits, remove the producers/sample credits listed, and assume the remaining names are the ones who actually wrote the song
- May 28, 2024magnolias
Do you actually believe someone took time out of their day to develop a Cash Cobain AI model?
i just heard the reference track
- May 28, 2024
bro please don’t compare this nigga to Wayne ever again im done
May 28, 2024·1 replyZenitsu Agatsumahttps://hotnewhiphop.co.uk/ovo-member-hush-silent-pen/
Link not working bro
- May 28, 2024
May 28, 2024I just listened to the full reference track. I can confirm that Drake recycled lyrics in his verses. 6 Fraud