i'm interested - what do you mean by this? do you have an example?
Lots of Sophie’s music
Or stuff like pinkpantheress
Things that intentionally place themselves in the digital space
Lots of Sophie’s music
Or stuff like pinkpantheress
Things that intentionally place themselves in the digital space
i wouldn't call that sterile - I think of sterile as a flat mix (which doesn't describe what you're talking about)
There's a difference between sterile and clean
Another big thing - less punching in. Back then they couldn't afford to do that. Higher effort and emotion in each take because they knew it was all on the line.
Yeah this is the crazy part about 60s and earlier music is they were essentially doing the songs damn near live.
Also there's less dynamic in music nowadays because everything is leveled the same.
i wouldn't call that sterile - I think of sterile as a flat mix (which doesn't describe what you're talking about)
There's a difference between sterile and clean
Well then yes a clean mix
Also orchestral or compositional pieces like a lot of Bjorks stuff
Partially why I love old vocal jazz and old soul so much is because of the dirty lo-fi mixes, gives it a lot of charm
!https://youtu.be/qnodF-uz1nk?si=bSK6F89BSBgZXZvdway they used to record jazz its so nice to listen to now hard to describe
Milestones goes super crazy on even a cheap system
i dont think its all nostalgia because ultimately a***og absolutely kills digital when it comes to media, same reason why people love film and vintage books, you cant beat the real deal
examples since post 2010
(you gotta trust me because this is about to be a wild ass range)
!https://youtu.be/l9fN-8NjrvI?si=-CVfJWr3DMgby8eZ!https://youtu.be/W4X8ElMjmVM?si=R52y_EcJalH8wfYe!https://youtu.be/94tXN9wlYpQ?si=e1LefDGWJL3_9LmS!https://youtu.be/5hthMeEqf40?si=5U5Oeif_aQ77JeYJ!https://youtu.be/yzAjagHwL_4?si=WnppPHLWoG0iRh3j!https://youtu.be/E6zblNbGXA4?si=Ee_iXdA3MqCvcOin
Well then yes a clean mix
Also orchestral or compositional pieces like a lot of Bjorks stuff
Idk I think you might not be thinking of this in the right way
All that is good I’m not dogging the music, just I think you’re arguing for a style of music which is cool, but doesn’t really have anything to do with the use of tape or not
listening to original vinyl from back when it was the primary way to listen and record music ffffuuuuuck if it dont sound like absolute money
i dont think its all nostalgia because ultimately a***og absolutely kills digital when it comes to media, same reason why people love film and vintage books, you cant beat the real deal
Hot take I don’t think it’s nostalgia even 1%
Hot take I don’t think it’s nostalgia even 1%
yeah it aint nostalgia they just did it better back then. all there is to it
im sure theres some truth to that but i think we just associate tape warmth with the golden age of music
reality is if your music is mediocre no amount of tape saturation will fix it
Another big thing - less punching in. Back then they couldn't afford to do that. Higher effort and emotion in each take because they knew it was all on the line.
This is one of my biggest gripes with modern rap
EVERYTHING is punched in with the new gen
the funniest paradoxical thing about the internet is that you have the library of Alexandria at your finger tips but often don't have the resources to make some s*** shake
Wym resources in this context
Wym resources in this context
I was talking about in general with life but just with music
A***og equipment is f***ing EXPENSIVE
Session artists lke those who play horns or strings are EXPENSIVE
top flight engineers are you guessed it..EXPENSIVE
Yes! Untitled famously ends because they ran out of tape while recording the song. That abrupt stop makes the song that much magical man
Elevado's musical tastes were the perfect fit to achieve this sound: the Beatles, David Bowie, classic soul men like Stevie Wonder and James Brown. Most importantly, Elevado was and remains a ride-or-die a***og man: an acolyte of recording and mixing on tape. Why a***og? The signals match the pure, recorded sound more accurately than a digital recording.
With a***og, the variations in air pressure as sound carries are fully captured in the first pass, whereas recording digitally translates those variations as a series of numbers that are reconverted into a***og signals.
That extra step renders a digital file a synthetic replica of organic sounds (think GMO foods, but with music). A***og tapes can have imperfections that result in sounds of crackling and popping noises, but it is those quirks and glitches that folks like Elevado live for, because it gives the music a sheen of extra authenticity.
Elevado imagined Voodoo as a chance to make "his own Sly Stone record," a throwback to classic R&B albums released in the 1960s and 1970s: instruments-sometimes lush, sometimes raucous-recorded in the moment with dynamic vocals that filled the room when the needle hit the groove.
Those recordings embraced the sweat and even the slipups. They are the true live music experience pressed onto vinyl.
Elevado was surprised, however, that his renegade-in-arms was mostly unfamiliar with the music of one of his idols, Jimi Hendrix. So Elevado proceeded to engage D'Angelo in a tutorial, playing all kinds of Hendrix for him, warming him up to experience what heights the new album could reach. Initially, the two-year Hendrix immersion fell on deaf ears.
But the Jimi epiphany finally occurred in 1996. While driving around Richmond with D'Angelo, and again at his house, Elevado played for him the 1968 double album Electric Ladyland. Finally, the scales fell from D'Angelo's eyes- or in this case, ears.
"It clicked," Elevado said. "He just flipped out." In Electric Ladyland, D'Angelo heard what Elevado already knew, the through line that led to his unique sound.
It was Elevado's back-to-the-future ideas like that one which Questlove credits with expanding his horizon on recording and producing music. "If Bob Power taught me how to make pizza, he said, "it was Russell who taught me endless ways to prepare it."
Such freewheeling trial and error became a type of inspirational music playroom for D'Angelo et al. Vocal and instrumental arrangements of songs would be refined, even scrapped and redone, take after take. Questlove remembers D'Angelo routinely discarding "brilliant" work, music that "would have been a career highlight for anyone else."
One hundred percent of Voodoo was recorded on tape, which-at a cost of about $200 per reel, each reel containing only 15 minutes worth of tape—resulted in "thousands and thousands" of dollars that Virgin Records had to cover. (worth every penny!!!)
Elevado's musical tastes were the perfect fit to achieve this sound: the Beatles, David Bowie, classic soul men like Stevie Wonder and James Brown. Most importantly, Elevado was and remains a ride-or-die a***og man: an acolyte of recording and mixing on tape. Why a***og? The signals match the pure, recorded sound more accurately than a digital recording.
With a***og, the variations in air pressure as sound carries are fully captured in the first pass, whereas recording digitally translates those variations as a series of numbers that are reconverted into a***og signals.
That extra step renders a digital file a synthetic replica of organic sounds (think GMO foods, but with music). A***og tapes can have imperfections that result in sounds of crackling and popping noises, but it is those quirks and glitches that folks like Elevado live for, because it gives the music a sheen of extra authenticity.
Elevado imagined Voodoo as a chance to make "his own Sly Stone record," a throwback to classic R&B albums released in the 1960s and 1970s: instruments-sometimes lush, sometimes raucous-recorded in the moment with dynamic vocals that filled the room when the needle hit the groove.
Those recordings embraced the sweat and even the slipups. They are the true live music experience pressed onto vinyl.
Elevado was surprised, however, that his renegade-in-arms was mostly unfamiliar with the music of one of his idols, Jimi Hendrix. So Elevado proceeded to engage D'Angelo in a tutorial, playing all kinds of Hendrix for him, warming him up to experience what heights the new album could reach. Initially, the two-year Hendrix immersion fell on deaf ears.
But the Jimi epiphany finally occurred in 1996. While driving around Richmond with D'Angelo, and again at his house, Elevado played for him the 1968 double album Electric Ladyland. Finally, the scales fell from D'Angelo's eyes- or in this case, ears.
"It clicked," Elevado said. "He just flipped out." In Electric Ladyland, D'Angelo heard what Elevado already knew, the through line that led to his unique sound.
It was Elevado's back-to-the-future ideas like that one which Questlove credits with expanding his horizon on recording and producing music. "If Bob Power taught me how to make pizza, he said, "it was Russell who taught me endless ways to prepare it."
Such freewheeling trial and error became a type of inspirational music playroom for D'Angelo et al. Vocal and instrumental arrangements of songs would be refined, even scrapped and redone, take after take. Questlove remembers D'Angelo routinely discarding "brilliant" work, music that "would have been a career highlight for anyone else."
One hundred percent of Voodoo was recorded on tape, which-at a cost of about $200 per reel, each reel containing only 15 minutes worth of tape—resulted in "thousands and thousands" of dollars that Virgin Records had to cover. (worth every penny!!!)
Thank you for putting all of this in here
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He’s a recovering XXXTENTACION stan/808 drone so he thinks mixes have to be blown out and in your face to be good
He’s a recovering XXXTENTACION stan/808 drone so he thinks mixes have to be blown out and in your face to be good
You have so much to say about everyone on here lol. Never quote anyone either. You okay?