@op the type to have s***with 20 women and force them all to have abortions if they get pregnant so he can continue to live his life devoid of responsibilities.

You hurt about something you was crying bout ya small d*** for a cool lil minute

this is why i only have s***with men

If all 20 got pregnant, I should keep all 20 so you feel better? Abortion exists for a reason, you don't HAVE to carry a baby to term anytime you have a scare and you making this comment makes it seem like there's something wrong with that.

I don’t think you understand the cost of an abortion and what it all entails

@op Theres just no way to have this argument without it being slanted to one side or the other be it the man or the woman

We live in 2021 as long as it’s a place where women have access to abortions it don’t have to be

so what is the solution yall are proposing? only sollution i could think of is if the man doesn't want the child but the woman does he would be able to give up his parental rights like biological parents do with adoption

You accept that responsibility when you decide to pork a woman my G. They teach this in most s***ed classes.

And besides why do you think men should think about the decision more than women what kind of logic is that

Responsibility is a bad word itt

Aight lets just meet in the middle

Like i told @FREE Id only agree with yall if there was some way to grant federal aid to mothers who carried a baby to term when the father didnt consent to fathering a child

I didn't say that

Nigga my s***Ed teacher was the gym teacher and they just told me why my d*** got hard, they ain’t try an add any morality to the situation, I wouldn’t personally bail on my kid, but I think a nigga should be able to bail on the kid the same way a b**** would

Relatable

Again you did, you said women shouldn’t expect to become a single mother, but niggas should expect to pay child support, they two sides of the same coin

Oh no there is. Y'all just don't like the idea of a man walking out on a child even if he didn't want it and tried everything not to.

I'll use myself as an example. I'm not sure the specifics of my birth, but I'll just make up somethings for the sake of the example because my case is one reverse of this thread.

So, say my mother didn't want me throughout the whole 9 months of her pregnancy, and the only reason she didn't abort me was because my dad wanted a child. Fast forward, she left me and started a new family and my dad shouldered the burden of raising me on his own. Now would I blame her for that? No of course not. She took both parties feelings into consideration and made the choice to give my dad the baby he wanted and let him deal with the consequence of having a baby she didn't want, which was raising it alone.

If I'm capable of applying this logic to my own life and not blame my mother for not sticking around for something she never wanted, how is it so difficult to do the same but in reverse. If people aren't ready, they aren't ready and that's okay. I'm never going to be mad at her if she only had me cause he wanted a son and then peaced out.

No i said if you go to have s***you should prepare for / expect a child.

Oh s*** I missed this if you just tryna kill this and chalk it up to difference of opinion we can

Either you lying or you ain’t read my post tho

@op you said you grew up without a mother right?

So was mine lmao but they still said that the best way to not have babies is to not f*** at all because you have a risk to create a family.
NO THEYRE BOTH WRONG NEITHER SHOULD BAIL ON THE KID. Two wrongs dont make a right.

Yes.

if we're being idealistic, wouldn't the best possible solution to this issue be eliminating the cause of "not being ready" and doing something about the cost to raise a child being half of many people's annual salary?

So you are just using your situation and trauma and projecting it onto this argument, yes?