A girl can not make herself pregnant without your sperm. So unless she takes it and does ivf without your knowledge you have to take responsibility.

Niggas see actual discussion and fix they mouth to come in and say dumb s*** about it being a troll thread. Who I'm trolling?? Everyone is expressing they side, tired of this site thinking locks are the solutions to any Shakey discussions.

Ironic. Grow up

Real

No you grow up. You a grown man calling in mods because it's a discussion you don't like. That's weird asf.

I’m doing it because you are a immature person trying to push your toxic and misogynystic agenda onto other possibly younger and more impressionable users.

You can get out now.

A guy can’t impregnate if an eggs not available tho. It’s 50/50 regardless.

So again if you don’t believe women and men should held to the same standard, then you see women as lesser than and that’s your opinion and you are entitled to it.

However I believe in equality, even if it hurts some feelings.

This isn’t about my personal opinion on what a man should do, it’s about what a man should have the right to do.

If not all gender roles and responsibilities are fair, then why do we even have this idea of equality between men and women?

I mean don’t get me wrong I think men and women are capable of accomplishing the same s*** if they apply themselves, the only real area I think women can’t compete with men is physical strength. But if we know things aren’t equal in every area, why pick and choose when to push and pursue equality and when not to ?

She doesnt owe you an abortion. If you nut in her you take full responsibility for anything that happens lmao.

Dont want kids? Wear a condom. It's that easy

Facts

Sorry I wrote like 4 paragraphs but my browser froze and I had to restart my phone so I'm just taking that as a sign to leave this thread.

Nah thats lame

We having a conversation in here and this site is for adults only

In this situation, the woman is the one carrying the child, not the man. So for her to go through that willingly and the guy to say “nah” once it’s born shows a lack of maturity and accountability for your actions. If you are going to make this innocent child grow up without a father I hope you at least provide for it financially without a court preceding(which will side with the female regardless anyway).

It sucks because people are disagreeing without seeing the hypocrisy in their disagreement

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Im not reading this thread. Gimme the TLDR

I am so f***ing tired of repeating myself. What condoms you got that are 100% effective? Accidents happen. I know girls that have been on BC AND used a condom and still got pregnant. Every nigga with a baby wasn't irresponsibly f***ing and nutting all in s***. Takes literally a single sperm to set sit in motion, so why y'all keep using this 'just strap up' argument is beyond me.

His option to eject from fatherhood is to not have sex. It feels like you are approaching this with the mentality that simply not having s***is something you just can’t do when you can.

A child needs two guardians regardless. Again, when you bring a child into the world your life no longer matters, it becomes entirely about them. You step up to the position and adapt to being a parent. No stable minded parent would ever hold any ill will or resentment against their child. Maybe against the mother/father, but NEVER the child.

I said it before that it is not “fair” that it’s her call to make, but many gender roles and responsibilities are not “fair” and this is one of them.

In a few states now it’s almost impossible to get an abortion. So are you going to pay the expenses for her to get it done in another state since you are the one that wants it done?

Honestly if neither of yall want the kid or are committed to being a good parent then take them to a foster home

A kid shouldnt have their life f***ed up cause their parents dont have their s*** together

If you believe in a woman's right to choose you should prolly believe in a mans right aswell. You don't have to like that choice tho at all which I think is where the issue is for people ITT.

I don't like what OP is saying but he isn't wrong

Why does questioning legal accountability and the roles/duties/obligations of men and women in child rearing in our society make him a misogynist or toxic?

Thats narrative controlling bullshit

Rt we already talked about straps in here and op against that s***