May 18·1 reply
HabibiKing· editedOkay cool for a year or however long people sang a song that says "a minor" boohoo, no one gives a s*** lol. Anyone who genuinely believes Drake is a PDF from that song has a useless opinion. Also, not like any of these 20 yr old edgy dudes opinions matter anyways.
These dudes and more importantly the labels care about money and honestly I'd do the same, if the whole world wants to sing along to a song that im a PDF and I knew I was going to make much more money. Sign me up. Read up on my other replies, not trying to reiterate the same s***.
Take off the tin foil hat, put the weed vape down and move out of your parents basement
- May 18·2 repliesElric
Take off the tin foil hat, put the weed vape down and move out of your parents basement
Nice reply brother. I don't smoke lol and I live in a pretty cool house. You're a waste of a reply, but I'll leave you with this.
If you believe UMG had no involvement in the beef (pushing it, marketing, signed off on it, half time show, etc etc) then just log off and watch teletubbies.
If you aren't a bot and are competent enough to realize how much power UMG has, ask yourself why would UMG do so?
at the end of the day it comes down to
UMG wants to destroy Drake, for whatever reasons e.g hurt his negotiation and value, or someshit idk
They have decades of doing this, decades of a***ytics, and see how these beefs create massive engagement, group identity, etc etc and will bring in more money.
- May 18·1 replyHabibiKing
Nice reply brother. I don't smoke lol and I live in a pretty cool house. You're a waste of a reply, but I'll leave you with this.
If you believe UMG had no involvement in the beef (pushing it, marketing, signed off on it, half time show, etc etc) then just log off and watch teletubbies.
If you aren't a bot and are competent enough to realize how much power UMG has, ask yourself why would UMG do so?
at the end of the day it comes down to
UMG wants to destroy Drake, for whatever reasons e.g hurt his negotiation and value, or someshit idk
They have decades of doing this, decades of a***ytics, and see how these beefs create massive engagement, group identity, etc etc and will bring in more money.
I don't spend my time thinking about these things bro. But I know he ain't gonna agree to a deal where two thirds of his regular collaborators turn on him and team up with Kenny to call him a pedo. He wasn't even remotely close to down bad enough to even contemplate it.
- May 18
awin3Don’t think the outcome was manufactured, guessing Drake wouldn’t be in on how it ended for him lol
Drake (and all parties involved) care about money.
I think many people seriously overestimate how much Drake actually cares about KTT2/Reddit/Gen pop users opinions lol
Also if you haven't realized people don't really care about s*** look at time and time again crazy things that have happened that people turn a blind eye too - think Covid, Epstein, constant political scandals, corporate bs, wars, leaks, surveillance revelations, etc. Public outrage burns hot online for a few weeks, then the cycle moves on.
- May 18·2 repliesElric
I don't spend my time thinking about these things bro. But I know he ain't gonna agree to a deal where two thirds of his regular collaborators turn on him and team up with Kenny to call him a pedo. He wasn't even remotely close to down bad enough to even contemplate it.
Drake is making more money now, you don't think money is enough of a reason? Look at his streams, he is reaching his largest Spotify monthly listeners, his (older) albums are performing much better, etc.
Like I said though, rationally, it comes down to UMG wanting to kill Drake or wanting to help his commercial success long term. Choose whatever you wanna believe.
- May 18HabibiKing
Drake is making more money now, you don't think money is enough of a reason? Look at his streams, he is reaching his largest Spotify monthly listeners, his (older) albums are performing much better, etc.
Like I said though, rationally, it comes down to UMG wanting to kill Drake or wanting to help his commercial success long term. Choose whatever you wanna believe.
Knowing how much he didn't enjoy getting cooked by Pusha? Yeah he's not agreeing to lose yet another beef. Pride is more important than getting more money when you already have that much money.
May 18HabibiKingOkay cool for a year or however long people sang a song that says "a minor" boohoo, no one gives a s*** lol. Anyone who genuinely believes Drake is a PDF from that song has a useless opinion. Also, not like any of these 20 yr old edgy dudes opinions matter anyways.
These dudes and more importantly the labels care about money and honestly I'd do the same, if the whole world wants to sing along to a song that im a PDF and I knew I was going to make much more money. Sign me up. Read up on my other replies, not trying to reiterate the same s***.
No offense bruh but that’s dumb as hell lol
- May 18·1 replyHabibiKing
Drake is making more money now, you don't think money is enough of a reason? Look at his streams, he is reaching his largest Spotify monthly listeners, his (older) albums are performing much better, etc.
Like I said though, rationally, it comes down to UMG wanting to kill Drake or wanting to help his commercial success long term. Choose whatever you wanna believe.
If this was really the case then 1. He wouldn’t have sued them and 2. He wouldn’t have dropped 3 albums on top of each other to get out of the deal.
May 18
TommyCampos
Lmfao
- May 18·1 replyAlbert Grindstein
If this was really the case then 1. He wouldn’t have sued them and 2. He wouldn’t have dropped 3 albums on top of each other to get out of the deal.
1. Drake attempting to sue UMG keeps average IQ folks thinking UMGs trying to kill Drake, trying to MJ him, etc etc etc and further creates group identity
Fuck UMG, I gotta support Drake2. Capitalize on ^
Maybe I'm wrong, but if I am, then UMG wants/wanted to hurt Drake for whatever reason.
- May 18·1 replyHabibiKing
1. Drake attempting to sue UMG keeps average IQ folks thinking UMGs trying to kill Drake, trying to MJ him, etc etc etc and further creates group identity
Fuck UMG, I gotta support Drake2. Capitalize on ^
Maybe I'm wrong, but if I am, then UMG wants/wanted to hurt Drake for whatever reason.
What? Nigga he sued them so how does them (average folks or whatever) thinking UMG is trying to “kill him” help the narrative that this is a UMG manufactured situation?
May 18UMG didn't manufacture the beef with Drake and Kendrick that's an asinine thing to believe.
As far as UMG is concerned, there's no beef needed to be manufactured both Kendrick and Drake didn't need it
May 18TDUB701
- May 20·1 replyAlbert Grindstein
What? Nigga he sued them so how does them (average folks or whatever) thinking UMG is trying to “kill him” help the narrative that this is a UMG manufactured situation?
Go look at what Drake fans think of the beef and UMGs involvement.
They think UMG wants to hurt his stock and have become more supportive than ever. Stop just saying s*** and look around.
- May 20·1 replyHabibiKing
Go look at what Drake fans think of the beef and UMGs involvement.
They think UMG wants to hurt his stock and have become more supportive than ever. Stop just saying s*** and look around.
You slow dude. I’m saying wtf would it be UMG manufactured with Drake (your own words) if that was the case? Everything that has happened points to it NOT being manufactured from the weight of the dirt and allegations throw around, to the lawsuit, to Drake throwing 3 albums out to get out of his deal. What are you talking about? The theory just holds no water dude. People have explained that to you multiple times.
May 20·editedBeef was definitely NOT manufactured lmao but you can't say the label didn't see moneybags as soon as it kicked off and facilitated its growth as much as possible
- May 20·2 repliesAlbert Grindstein
You slow dude. I’m saying wtf would it be UMG manufactured with Drake (your own words) if that was the case? Everything that has happened points to it NOT being manufactured from the weight of the dirt and allegations throw around, to the lawsuit, to Drake throwing 3 albums out to get out of his deal. What are you talking about? The theory just holds no water dude. People have explained that to you multiple times.
All of that is what creates the group identity and gives the whole thing a sense of legitimacy. Without that, Drake fans wouldn’t be nearly as ride or die. Now they feel like there’s an actual public takedown of Drake happening, so supporting him becomes a way of “fighting back” through streams, purchases, engagement, defending him online, showing love, etc.
Honestly pointless making this thread with small minded folks on here
May 20Trust the plan
May 20·1 replyHabibiKingAll of that is what creates the group identity and gives the whole thing a sense of legitimacy. Without that, Drake fans wouldn’t be nearly as ride or die. Now they feel like there’s an actual public takedown of Drake happening, so supporting him becomes a way of “fighting back” through streams, purchases, engagement, defending him online, showing love, etc.
Honestly pointless making this thread with small minded folks on here
so the best way to fight the system is indoctrinating yourself further within said system for what…? awards that the same system made up like fairy dust they get to brag about?
Drake stans are now Barbs…and that’s okay!
- May 20·1 replyValentine
so the best way to fight the system is indoctrinating yourself further within said system for what…? awards that the same system made up like fairy dust they get to brag about?
Drake stans are now Barbs…and that’s okay!
That’s kinda the point. The system turns fan loyalty into labor. People think they’re defending their side, but they’re really just feeding more attention, streams, and money into the exact machine they think they’re fighting against.
You guys act like these labels and artists are naive and not completely driven by business and money. At the absolute minimum, UMG had every incentive to push Kendrick because it would make Drake fans rally harder behind him and make the entire situation even bigger, whether Drake was consciously in on it or not.
- May 20·1 replyHabibiKing
That’s kinda the point. The system turns fan loyalty into labor. People think they’re defending their side, but they’re really just feeding more attention, streams, and money into the exact machine they think they’re fighting against.
You guys act like these labels and artists are naive and not completely driven by business and money. At the absolute minimum, UMG had every incentive to push Kendrick because it would make Drake fans rally harder behind him and make the entire situation even bigger, whether Drake was consciously in on it or not.
I think that’s an over simplification of a very complicated business practice with millions of possible returns
the main perspective is UMGs two top rappers had beef for a decade that boiled over, not that UMG was pushing negatives on their product in hopes to reverse psychology audiences
- May 20·1 replyHabibiKing
All of that is what creates the group identity and gives the whole thing a sense of legitimacy. Without that, Drake fans wouldn’t be nearly as ride or die. Now they feel like there’s an actual public takedown of Drake happening, so supporting him becomes a way of “fighting back” through streams, purchases, engagement, defending him online, showing love, etc.
Honestly pointless making this thread with small minded folks on here
You presented this as an idea that Drake, UMG, and everyone involved all got together and manufactured this. There are things that have transpired that say otherwise dude. I don't know why this is so hard for you to understand. Did UMG or each side try to capitalize off of it, sure, but that's not what you were saying in OP.
- May 20·1 replyValentine
I think that’s an over simplification of a very complicated business practice with millions of possible returns
the main perspective is UMGs two top rappers had beef for a decade that boiled over, not that UMG was pushing negatives on their product in hopes to reverse psychology audiences
Millions of possible returns?
What are the millions or even handful of possible returns lol, these labels have dudes being paid millions running numbers, a***ytics, and seeing the history of these beefs (Ye/50, Pusha Drake, etc etc etc). They knew with an extreme likelihood the outcome. There’s really only one outcome when s*** like this happens, more engagement, more streams, more discourse, more tribalism, more media coverage, and ultimately more money flowing through the entire machine.
May 20HabibiKingNice reply brother. I don't smoke lol and I live in a pretty cool house. You're a waste of a reply, but I'll leave you with this.
If you believe UMG had no involvement in the beef (pushing it, marketing, signed off on it, half time show, etc etc) then just log off and watch teletubbies.
If you aren't a bot and are competent enough to realize how much power UMG has, ask yourself why would UMG do so?
at the end of the day it comes down to
UMG wants to destroy Drake, for whatever reasons e.g hurt his negotiation and value, or someshit idk
They have decades of doing this, decades of a***ytics, and see how these beefs create massive engagement, group identity, etc etc and will bring in more money.
Nice reply brother. I don't smoke lol and I live in a pretty cool house
- May 20·1 replyAlbert Grindstein
You presented this as an idea that Drake, UMG, and everyone involved all got together and manufactured this. There are things that have transpired that say otherwise dude. I don't know why this is so hard for you to understand. Did UMG or each side try to capitalize off of it, sure, but that's not what you were saying in OP.
These things that have transpired that say otherwise create the legitimacy of it and amplify it lol.
That's the hidden in plain sight that you're missing, if Drake didn't drop bars about his label, sue the label, etc. Fans wouldn't be as engaged.