I don’t see why an American who only knows American perspectives of race wouldn’t apply that perspective in their labels though
This such a golden opportunity for her to raise awareness and i know she will but look at the material when she decided to. A whole mess
This such a golden opportunity for her to raise awareness and i know she will but look at the material when she decided to. A whole mess
I feel that
American cultural export has led to the world thinking every racial convention is just white/black etc etc etc etc
This such a golden opportunity for her to raise awareness and i know she will but look at the material when she decided to. A whole mess
OP, these are different labels you are trying to force into unison, it's unnecessary and Cumbersome, as long as her music is blooming, I don't expect her to bore niggas with "I'm actually colored" interjections, let her rock out
Aight bro you really starting to say this as if calling somebody Black is an insult...
Oh my word dude im a black african, She is a coloured african how did you come to your conclusion
No it isnt i promise it isnt we love you guys and do consume your culture etc but its basically about not understanding that things operate differently elsewhere also misclassification
That goes both ways, there is a reason why Americans are having the reaction that they're having to hearing this woman call herself "colored"
White america doesn’t give af abt that
They will see a black girl and treat her as such out of prejudice, there is no educating those people
As you live across different social frameworks you will receive different treatment
but we are talking about black ppl here black people call anyone black here too that includes indians and coloureds too.
Boy, niggas were playing house before amapiano which evolved into this, black coffee is an OG of house music, then even before that it was kwaito, there's a history there if you were to take a moment but I'ma leave you ignorant
How does that change the fact that there’s American r&b type chord structures/progressions and jazz solos in the music lol
but we are talking about black ppl here black people call anyone black here too that includes indians and coloureds too.
The way I see it, America is still in a state where white people dictate s*** on some white supremacist s***
That include race and how you get treated because of your race
We can argue about biracial people or the shade of melanin you have, but if white people just recognize you as black, they will discriminate you as such
Oh my word dude im a black african, She is a coloured african how did you come to your conclusion
how did you come to your conclusion
This entire thread lmao
calling her black erases her heritage?
COLOURED PEOPLE HAVE THERE OWN HERITAGE THAT IS EXCLUSIVE TO THEM CALLING THEM BLACK MAYBE THE SAME AS CALLING THEM ASIAN, EUROPEAN, KHOISAN AND ARAB
Then what's Trevor Noah in America, or any other SA in America who is not white, I think it matters more what she thinks she is, especially in SA where her roots are, cause outside of that, it's a fruitless war of semantics
Trevor Noah would he considered black by most in USA and Bi racial to others.
He would be considered coloured here but in terms of being just mixed but not in terms of heritage so in American standards he is black tyla (NO)
You see it's a bit weird cause biracial in America means white and black parents, but in sa, colored people are a people whose race is a little bit of everything in SA context, but Steve Biko considered colored people and black people a collective black people, hence colored niggas can say nigga which doesn't really matter back there
Hence culture intercepting
The world isn't ready for the topics in this thread to be discussed seriously, hence the s***flinging from both sides. I'm surprised she's willing to use that term though, considering it has considerable stigma. "Coloured" is a weird term to begin with since it implies that not being pink/"white" makes you not normal. It's a relic of a racist recent past 300 years or so.
Race is mostly meaningless and a also a social construct anyway. As proven by the ever moving boundaries of what is defined as white (Irish and Italians weren't considered white in American until recently). Are people with albinism counted as black? These questions will get different answers since race is made up by people to justify discrimination, looting and othering. Ethnicity is what is real.
When I'm sitting in a room of black men, I don't go thinking, "oh I'm in a room full of black men wow, look at us". I think, I'm Jamaican, Muhammed is Nigerian and Muslim, Jerome is ethnically Ghanian and Abel is Ethiopian (lol). And we all have our own unique cultural backgrounds, but we also have the unique tying factor of being visually brown skinned, so to most people we're thrown into the bucket of "black". So we experience life similarly in many ways too.
That’s cool but even amapiano is heavily influenced by American genres
Please don't start that one, do not open that hell gate if you have no awareness of the South African electronic music scene, don't.
I know im talking about the term “colored people” it still means black
Identity politics aside mixed is still black its a person of color
IN AMERICA
I think nobody will care unless she says “im not black”
But it will sound better if she said im not just black im also etc. etc.
The world isn't ready for the topics in this thread to be discussed seriously, hence the s***flinging from both sides. I'm surprised she's willing to use that term though, considering it has considerable stigma. "Coloured" is a weird term to begin with since it implies that not being pink/"white" makes you not normal. It's a relic of a racist recent past 300 years or so.
Race is mostly meaningless and a also a social construct anyway. As proven by the ever moving boundaries of what is defined as white (Irish and Italians weren't considered white in American until recently). Are people with albinism counted as black? These questions will get different answers since race is made up by people to justify discrimination, looting and othering. Ethnicity is what is real.
When I'm sitting in a room of black men, I don't go thinking, "oh I'm in a room full of black men wow, look at us". I think, I'm Jamaican, Muhammed is Nigerian and Muslim, Jerome is ethnically Ghanian and Abel is Ethiopian (lol). And we all have our own unique cultural backgrounds, but we also have the unique tying factor of being visually brown skinned, so to most people we're thrown into the bucket of "black". So we experience life similarly in many ways too.
Ask him when we getting season 2 bro
He would be considered coloured here but in terms of being just mixed but not in terms of heritage so in American standards he is black tyla (NO)
Someone who looks like Tyla would be considered black in America. And many Americans that look like her would consider themselves black.
That’s why this conversation is so polarizing. Y’all can educate niggas on your dynamics over there and many people like me are understanding and accepting of it but the problems start when y’all get on here and try to vilify black Americans.