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There we go.

I got people asking me to dig up specific quotes but I'm not perusing the Internet in 2026 to point out that Kanye West is a douchebag. It's like trying to scientifically explain why the sky is blue. We all know the truth, we don't need footnotes.

honestly pretty funny

Not really

It ruined it for a good year though

The nigga likes music from other people

And tries to make music with the other people. Whether they’re hip hop artists or folk, rock, electronic, whatever

That’s something we on this forum would dream about doing

Hip hop is the goat genre because u can take anything and make it hip hop, and he does that at a very high level. Suggesting he’s taking hip hop and making it something else is such an insecure view

We all know this isn’t true though. It’s Kanye, he obviously listens to rap music

Hammer being actually about that life still shreds me

Quote Kanye himself calling older hip hop classics "primitive" and "basic." Stuff like that needs sources.

As much of a lunatic as Kanye is, that doesn't even sound like him. Kanye's whole reason for becoming a rapper was because of his love for hip hop and Dame Dash pushing him into it.

Why would Kanye even do a whole collab with Jay-Z right after MBDTF if Hov is from the era of "basic and primitive" rap?

Kany was d***riding Nas like a mofo on Drink Champs 5 years ago, calling him the GOAT. Why would a rapper who hates old school rap call Nas the GOAT?

Late Registration*

That was a label play tho, no?

Jay Z still has control of hip hop and has gentrified / been a proud capitalist his entire career

The less favor Kanye has, the more they try this s*** lmao

If lying on him didn’t work after these past few years they’re just going to have to accept that not everybody is f***ing stupid and will not go for that

Soon as he went bombastic AND high fashion to the extreme, the suburban cacs were hooked

yeah he was def joking here

this was around 808s era where he said in interviews he was trying to do more poppy, almost country-style melodies, but that album had Wayne and Jeezy feats too

All those artist are their own people lol

This thread giving me a headache

“I posed as a backpack rapper”

@Valentine

Kanye the goat but his influence ruined the genre.

-Normal lame mfs started rapping
-Gangsta rap died/streets lost control
-more importance on beats over lyrics
-fashion/rollouts/aesthetic/eras all became common for all rappers
-ghostwriters more accepted
-auto tune more accepted
-influenced everybody but nobody can be him

Man...ya'll need to define what "gentrification" is.

Cause Eminem himself will tell you that he attracted many racists and rap haters who see him as far superior to any Black rapper.

Eminem stans use to say the most racist s*** about Lil Wayne too.

Is that not gentrification gone wrong or is not because Pitchfork didn't give him a 10?

I'm trying to see OP's angle here.

The problem is really the fans though

Everyone knows there are a lot of Reddit Kanye fans who talk like Ye is cleaning up rap music and making it palatable for civilized people

Those guys suck for sure but that’s not what OP is talking about so he’s just wrong

honestly, gentrification on its own isn’t even a bad thing

it just has a bad reputation because white people are known for doing it to the detriment of minorities

it’s a GOOD THING when stagnant conservative communities are forced to let other people into their bubbles

Kanye opening up hip hop to a wider market by working with so many people outside the genre did gentrify it, but that’s not a bad thing on its own. the bad part came when the culture vultures swooped in, which i think happened around 2016/2017 and had more to do with Akademiks

Yea I agree but imo I think it played the biggest role