Jan 26·1 reply
ValentineI do not support human pain and suffering, ya’ll weird bruh
So I can put you down as a No vote then
Jan 26·1 reply
NothingIshis most acclaimed album was glorified “stomp clap hey” music & he constantly stole credit from more “street” rappers for their influence (see: Lil Wayne’s use of autotune predating Kanye’s)
and his fanbase is adamant that his music “transcends” rap as if rap is something basic
there’s plenty of other examples, but yea. he gentrified the genre
Your ability to post some bullshit is unmatched
“Stomp clap hey” music bro im crying
UncMC 🏰Jan 26·2 replies
Free YoungBoyHow is this gentrification lol
Graduation beating Curtis was like the Yums in the hood being replace by a chase bank
- Jan 26NothingIs
yes but only if the person receiving the penalty annoyed me on ktt2.com
Completely understandable
- Jan 26doot doot
Your ability to post some bullshit is unmatched
“Stomp clap hey” music bro im crying
honestly, this is high praise coming from you, og
Jan 26·2 repliesNothingIsKanye believes what he says in interviews
"I don't read books"
"I read mein kempf twice a day"
Both were lies
OPJan 26·1 reply
v12clipse made very weird music compared to a lot of mainstream rappers. they’ve even talked about the clipsters being white fans who are into thëm but also the indie music out at that time during the 00s indie boom.
Weird music doesn't mean gentrification man
Hip hop's always had a weird side.
- Jan 26Elric
"I don't read books"
"I read mein kempf twice a day"
Both were lies
yea he probably listened to the audiobook version
- Jan 26·2 repliesUncMC
Graduation beating Curtis was like the Yums in the hood being replace by a chase bank
No it wasn’t lol. Graduation was just a much better album than Curtis.
And you’re ignoring the fact that suburban white people loved 50 cent back then
Jan 26UncMCGraduation beating Curtis was like the Yums in the hood being replace by a chase bank
I still think 50 sold more globally first week
Jan 26Elric"I don't read books"
"I read mein kempf twice a day"
Both were lies
He really doesn't read books that aren't mein Kampf
Jan 26He made it more digestible for people from different backgrounds to enjoy. His feelings and emotions weren’t just for black people, and a lot of hip hop was about preserving black culture.
- UncMC 🏰Jan 26·1 replyFree YoungBoy
No it wasn’t lol. Graduation was just a much better album than Curtis.
And you’re ignoring the fact that suburban white people loved 50 cent back then
Graduation is a pop album compared to Curtis
- Jan 26Ulyanov_
That's what I'm saying though bro. It's not explicitly about white people at all honestly. It's about hip hop becoming watered down and sanitized for white audiences, and plenty of black artists played a role in that. White rappers such as Eminem and El-P and even the Beastie Boys did not gentrify hip hop. They also all seem to have more reverence for traditional hip hop than Kanye does, by far honestly.
Idk man I feel like mainstream rappers that that were marketing straight gangster/partying lifestyles did alot worse than the guy who made Crack Music and Murder To Excellence. Like you said, Dre and Diddy.
SABMAN TURNT 🧔🏻Jan 26·1 reply
SemiThis thread giving me a headache
can we name this phenomenon
“threadache”
- Jan 26·2 replies
holy s*** y'all are stupid as f***
- Jan 26Free YoungBoy
No it wasn’t lol. Graduation was just a much better album than Curtis.
And you’re ignoring the fact that suburban white people loved 50 cent back then
They loved 50 a little too much tbh. Whites that stayed hyper focused on hyper masculine gangster d**** and murder rap into the 2000s got the side eye from me.
Jan 26·1 replySABMAN TURNTcan we name this phenomenon
“threadache”
lowkenuinely this is awesome
- Jan 26·1 reply
There's a reason 50 rapped about smoking and drinking when he didn't even smoke or drink
Jan 26People were genuinely getting tired of gangster rap at that time even though its hard to believe from where we are now. You had too many rappers in that genre with too many mid albums. It was oversaturated
Jan 26·2 repliesNothingIsthose people weren’t really hip hop fans though, they wouldn’t discuss artists who weren’t on Shady/Aftermath because they didn’t listen to any of them. they weren’t trying to masquerade as part of the culture.
meanwhile, you have Drake stans on here saying “why doesn’t Rocky talk about his album during these interviews, all i see is him talking about Drake” because they don’t actually pay attention to anyone who isn’t Drake, but they wanna pretend they’re part of the culture too
I think I kinda see where you're coming from.
I thought OP meant fans as a whole.
If we're talking about rap fan discourse, I can see the argument more so.
- OPJan 26·4 repliesElric
There's a reason 50 rapped about smoking and drinking when he didn't even smoke or drink
Kanye gentrified hip hop in the same way Democrats pushed the United States further right, if that makes sense. More subtle and obscure but arguably no less harmful. Serially invalidating the grassroots tenets of hip hop is the other side of the coin of limiting the perception of hip hop to caricatured gangster images and debauchery.
- UncMC 🏰Jan 26
A hip-hop track sampling daft punk at the time was something totally left field
- Jan 26·1 replybabylon sherm
So I can put you down as a No vote then
that should be the natural answer when it comes to hurting other humans, reasoning on a line about hurting someone is insanity. you got it
- Jan 26·2 repliesUncMC
Graduation is a pop album compared to Curtis
Yeah it’s a pop rap album but how does that make it gentrified?
Between this take and the pink polo comment it feels like you’re trying to say that Kanye not being from the streets is the reason he gentrified hip hop