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    SpiderMan

    I was gifted it but ok. I know it's probably hard for you to understand as you've never been shown love in your life.

    This got a chuckle out of me tbh

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    SpiderMan

    I was gifted it but ok. I know it's probably hard for you to understand as you've never been shown love in your life.

    The tensions is definitely rising

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    Love Life Utopia

    And then this was them 4 months later

    I think the discussion is getting lost in the pages

    Kanye said "Travis copies him" on Drink Champs and on his next album Travis grabs like 3 Kanye songs, uses an OG version of I Am A God and basically does a version of Black Skinhead with Circus Maximus

    And the beat switch on Lost Forever is basically a remake of Famous

    It's just odd to me, that's all

    It's not that deep

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    Vibe

    He used like 8 goddamn Kanye songs on this LMAO

    Trav was working with him on Gods Country but he literally grabbed all his s*** and said these are mine now LMAO

    which 8 songs?

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    Vibe

    I think the discussion is getting lost in the pages

    Kanye said "Travis copies him" on Drink Champs and on his next album Travis grabs like 3 Kanye songs, uses an OG version of I Am A God and basically does a version of Black Skinhead with Circus Maximus

    And the beat switch on Lost Forever is basically a remake of Famous

    It's just odd to me, that's all

    It's not that deep

    Bro you gotta drop the “Lost forever copies Famous” thing

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    hoopsplayer21

    which 8 songs?

    When I posted that a video of Kanye working on Delresto was linked but it was fake I guess

    But

    Gods Country
    Telekinesis
    Thank God
    Modern Jam is an original version of I Am A God
    Circus Maximus seems heavily inspired by Black Skinhead

    I guess Delresto was not a Kanye song though

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    First time I heard the carti verse I thought it was lil yachty doing a carti voice

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    notbrock

    Bro you gotta drop the “Lost forever copies Famous” thing

    It's literally the same beat to me but that's just IMO

    I actually prefer Famous but it's a cool beatswitch

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    ye d***riders freaking out lol
    he uses
    an og yeezus beat ok fine we know he does homage
    and 2 beats that kanye helped make
    so now the whole album copies yeezus...?
    kanye doesnt OWN mike dean synths, industrial sounds and weird screams, stop it man. feels like some of yall are super young and never heard a travis album in your life

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    SignedTwice

    Can’t believe alc produced that, I feel like a sample didn’t get cleared and they just left it bare

    Sample clearance wouldn’t have been an issue for somebody like Travis tbh

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    i like the new lost forever version way better gunn just sounds better on this new beat

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    The screaming in the beat on Circus Maximus is so good man

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    Vibe

    When I posted that a video of Kanye working on Delresto was linked but it was fake I guess

    But

    Gods Country
    Telekinesis
    Thank God
    Modern Jam is an original version of I Am A God
    Circus Maximus seems heavily inspired by Black Skinhead

    I guess Delresto was not a Kanye song though

    The Kanye delresto thing is most likely real

    The video date is the same as the date that Kanye got the files for the song, according to private info
    The vocals are the same bpm and key as the song
    Travis is sitting at a table in the video, where his face can’t be seen but he has been fit checked from that day and verified

    Idk, could be fake but it’s likely not

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    Vibe

    I think the discussion is getting lost in the pages

    Kanye said "Travis copies him" on Drink Champs and on his next album Travis grabs like 3 Kanye songs, uses an OG version of I Am A God and basically does a version of Black Skinhead with Circus Maximus

    And the beat switch on Lost Forever is basically a remake of Famous

    It's just odd to me, that's all

    It's not that deep

    This has been the process for travis and kanye tho

    FML was a rodeo track
    Piss on Your Grave was a SHMG/TLOP track

    They always give and take, I wonder if travis gave ye something in return for ye’s next album

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    Andre Jaquet

    ye d***riders freaking out lol
    he uses
    an og yeezus beat ok fine we know he does homage
    and 2 beats that kanye helped make
    so now the whole album copies yeezus...?
    kanye doesnt OWN mike dean synths, industrial sounds and weird screams, stop it man. feels like some of yall are super young and never heard a travis album in your life

    Telekinesis and Gods Country are whatever because ye gives people songs all the time

    The only actual robbery is Circus Maximus which is almost literally Black Skinhead with a Weeknd feature (still amazing tho)

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    Maximus

    This has been the process for travis and kanye tho

    FML was a rodeo track
    Piss on Your Grave was a SHMG/TLOP track

    They always give and take, I wonder if travis gave ye something in return for ye’s next album

    Yeah Kanye does this too, most recently Ghost Town being originally for Kids See Ghost but Kanye wanted it on Ye instead

    I'm not saying it's a bad thing at all, i'm just wondering why it was so many songs (on Utopia), but it's prob nothing at the end of the day

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    Andre Jaquet

    ye d***riders freaking out lol
    he uses
    an og yeezus beat ok fine we know he does homage
    and 2 beats that kanye helped make
    so now the whole album copies yeezus...?
    kanye doesnt OWN mike dean synths, industrial sounds and weird screams, stop it man. feels like some of yall are super young and never heard a travis album in your life

    I keep trying to tell people Kanye didn’t invent the drum rhythm on blackskinhead and when it dropped everyone thought he sampled Marilyn Manson but everytime I say it everyone just completely ignores it

    And we don’t know about the leaks. No one knows what album or which artist they were intended for. That’s how being in a room of creatives works, Just making ideas for the sake of making ideas

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    Vibe

    Yeah Kanye does this too, most recently Ghost Town being originally for Kids See Ghost but Kanye wanted it on Ye instead

    I'm not saying it's a bad thing at all, i'm just wondering why it was so many songs (on Utopia), but it's prob nothing at the end of the day

    Wasn’t Kanye an executive producer of the 2021 version of Utopia? I remember seeing that somewhere

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    Andre Jaquet

    i like the new lost forever version way better gunn just sounds better on this new beat

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    notbrock

    I keep trying to tell people Kanye didn’t invent the drum rhythm on blackskinhead and when it dropped everyone thought he sampled Marilyn Manson but everytime I say it everyone just completely ignores it

    And we don’t know about the leaks. No one knows what album or which artist they were intended for. That’s how being in a room of creatives works, Just making ideas for the sake of making ideas

    He didn’t invent it, but he utilized it so well and that song has become so iconic over the years that the pattern is sort of synonymous with Ye at this point, especially in the hip-hop world. I get what you’re saying though

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    shaleirose

    Wasn’t Kanye an executive producer of the 2021 version of Utopia? I remember seeing that somewhere

    He couldve been, that would make alot of sense actually

  • i just want the my eyes intro on a 10 hour loop

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    Vibe

    I think the discussion is getting lost in the pages

    Kanye said "Travis copies him" on Drink Champs and on his next album Travis grabs like 3 Kanye songs, uses an OG version of I Am A God and basically does a version of Black Skinhead with Circus Maximus

    And the beat switch on Lost Forever is basically a remake of Famous

    It's just odd to me, that's all

    It's not that deep

    The beat switch on Lost Forever is such a basic snare pattern, they aren’t anything new and Ye has used them many times, twice on TLOP, and even on Donda. He ain’t even make it up, Havoc (who did the drums on the songs mentioned) uses them very often

    (5:25) he brings in the pattern

    I think it’s dope that Travis hung on to a beat this long that was probably the first throwaway he got from Ye, I see no issues there and he made it work.

    Also I don’t see any of the other blatant copies or influences people are talking about, outside of Ye giving him the demos to God’s Country and Future Sounds.

    3-4 songs out of a 19 song project is not egregious when that’s literally your mentor LOL

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    shaleirose

    Wasn’t Kanye an executive producer of the 2021 version of Utopia? I remember seeing that somewhere

    Kanye exec producing both Utopia and WLR
    2 classics

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    Love Life Utopia

    The beat switch on Lost Forever is such a basic snare pattern, they aren’t anything new and Ye has used them many times, twice on TLOP, and even on Donda. He ain’t even make it up, Havoc (who did the drums on the songs mentioned) uses them very often

    !https://youtu.be/R4uZ8S8HBKg?si=AhzewrQDKIfBhPR4

    (5:25) he brings in the pattern

    I think it’s dope that Travis hung on to a beat this long that was probably the first throwaway he got from Ye, I see no issues there and he made it work.

    Also I don’t see any of the other blatant copies or influences people are talking about, outside of Ye giving him the demos to God’s Country and Future Sounds.

    3-4 songs out of a 19 song project is not egregious when that’s literally your mentor LOL

    I didn't know Havoc did those drums

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