The real gods of this alt rap s*** are Busdriver, Del the Funky Homosapien, and Zion I. F*** Brockhampton nigga.

the atmosphere and cohesion is just masterful off that album but they wanna cry about it being the album he pivoted and went gay or some s***

just makes zero sense

Part of it is that Donald isn’t half the vocalist his idols are, so he can write a really good song and not sell it as well.

Big Diss a gree

I mean, we’re comparing him vocally to MJ and Prince lol it’s not an insult to say he’s half the vocalist they are

Yes sir

Although I can't let that influence how i view other folks writing, I try to critique from a music fan perspective rather than a creative person's perspective, you feel me fam?

So we gonna act like SZA & Summer Walker don’t exist?

S*** even throw Brent in there regardless of how you feel about his music

R&B for the past 6 years has done better mainstream wise since it’s commercial fall off in the early 2010s

Zion I shoutout on ktt

you're not the only one with this take

someone in chromakopia thread did say his jane song sounded like

tyler is very immature to the point it shows in the lyrics. It's that same immaturity that made him a star so it's endearing but I can see why his more introspective songs doesn't stick with people.

Yachty is a shameless biter lmao, that one single where he did that deep voice for a bar like Carti did pissed me off so bad

Flower Boy is HELLA impressive. He went crazy on those string arrangements.

See You Again might be the biggest song of his career and 911/Mr Lonely might be the best

nigga said BRENT

only person on this list is SZA.

and that's because SZA's pen game is probably the best we got in mainstream R&B

bra y’all niggas are crazy on here

niggas not getting it.

Tyler is not a good singer but the production on Igor makes up for it

teenagers like him

thats all there is to it

I thought this too.

but halfway through...it didn't lolololol.

yea thats very true, I was saying before how majority of the time he gives away beats its clearly just a throwaway from his album sessions

entire album is literally audio candy

the synths & pads on Glitter

even the token banger on that album is his best w/ Who Dat Boy

Thank you Tyler for pointing me back to this masterpiece 🙏

the songs wheres actually trying to sing a la Gone Gone are so upsetting

ill never forget seeing Who Dat Boy live, nigga that build up you can deadass see the tension in the air before that beat dropped

s*** is f***ing insane

what are you talking about lol.

the @op post would make sense if this was during flowerboy but we're way past that now, and he IS a legit mainstream artist now lol his last two albums are literally among the top - especially his last.

and his"universal" hit already happened - its called Earthquake and WusYaName.

also people love Sticky its still charrting high af on billboard, spotify and apple music. its literally the only song majorly charting that isnt kendricks album, legacy christmas songs and that shaboozy country song.

im not even a fan of tylers like that but this comes off like you just woke up from a 5 year coma and aint peeped nothin thats been going on.

and carried by his connects? he was literally an outcast his whole career from most his peers and legends until cherry bomb and was a mainstream outcast fromt the mainstream until flowerboy. only TDE and AASAP Mob was rockin with him beforehand LOL.

everything else youve said just souunds like a personal opinion that youre trying to push as facts when the numbers and audience literally say different. and tyler got a huge positive reaction at The Pop Out which isnt his scene at all but everyone still knew the words to the two songs i posted above of his genuine universal hits.

yall just come off more n more out the loop as an oldhead stuck under a rock every other month. stupid thread.

I still ain't listen to SOS in full. It's just too much SZA-nese on the first few tracks. I just don't have the time or energy to decipher an hour (now two hours thanks to Lana) of sad side chick music.

Brent is going platinum multiple times while being indie and as an R&B artist

Like his music or not he’s the most successful in the male R&B space