deleteduser579

1y

i posted the same s***

can’t even view embeds on this site anymore

Corporate Mór

1y

Then I need to make an account

1996 BRL

1y

Hopefully next year we'll be yapping about your music fam

I'm tryna see KTT2 musicians winning

deleteduser579

1y

i posted the same s***

can’t even view embeds on this site anymore

deleteduser579

1y

RYM classic

doot doot

1y

He’s a terrible, terrible, no good, awful “artist” who somehow graduated from making Zumiez music to making urban outfitters music, and at the same time built up one of the most delusional and cringeworthy fanbases in music

Sby gotta strap him to a chair and make him watch Challengers on a loop for 3-4 years so he loses interest in making music

doot doot

1y

He’s a terrible, terrible, no good, awful “artist” who somehow graduated from making Zumiez music to making urban outfitters music, and at the same time built up one of the most delusional and cringeworthy fanbases in music

Sby gotta strap him to a chair and make him watch Challengers on a loop for 3-4 years so he loses interest in making music

doot doot

1y

He’s a terrible, terrible, no good, awful “artist” who somehow graduated from making Zumiez music to making urban outfitters music, and at the same time built up one of the most delusional and cringeworthy fanbases in music

Sby gotta strap him to a chair and make him watch Challengers on a loop for 3-4 years so he loses interest in making music

doot doot

1y

He’s a terrible, terrible, no good, awful “artist” who somehow graduated from making Zumiez music to making urban outfitters music, and at the same time built up one of the most delusional and cringeworthy fanbases in music

Sby gotta strap him to a chair and make him watch Challengers on a loop for 3-4 years so he loses interest in making music

doot doot

1y

He’s a terrible, terrible, no good, awful “artist” who somehow graduated from making Zumiez music to making urban outfitters music, and at the same time built up one of the most delusional and cringeworthy fanbases in music

Sby gotta strap him to a chair and make him watch Challengers on a loop for 3-4 years so he loses interest in making music

Botney

1y

19 pages in 2 hours? It's Christmas yall

TheFader

1y

I agree

Corporate Mór

1y

The lo-fi Songs in the Key of Life. This is the middle ground between Stevie Wonder and Daniel Johnston. It's a messy collection of sketches, thoughts and fantasies. You'll know how much Kanye appreciated it once you hear Boylife in America.

Wow

1996 BRL

1y

I see you working pleighboi

2025 we all dropping heat

deleteduser579

1y

any album with unconventional mixing and a quirky artist behind it gets compared to Daniel Johnston for these dumbasses

insertcoolnamehere

1y

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DISCLAIMER: this list is talking merely vocal ability, this list doesn’t necessarily mean they make the best music

Ari Lennox (seeing her live…yeah she’s holding it down as a voice in the mainstream of R&B)
Muni Long
Ravyn Lenae
Nai Palm (that weird white girl from Australia got the gift bro)
Hol up dijon man what im bugging lol

HM: durand bernarr, Leon Bridges, Lucky Daye (i’ll tie em cause while I dont listen to a lot of their catalog, gotta put a man on this list out of fairness and they are exceptionally great singers), that nigga from Children of Zeus, Jacob Banks (peep the new album he dropped), and JHud (would she classify as modern?)

insertcoolnamehere

1y

· edited

DISCLAIMER: this list is talking merely vocal ability, this list doesn’t necessarily mean they make the best music

Ari Lennox (seeing her live…yeah she’s holding it down as a voice in the mainstream of R&B)
Muni Long
Ravyn Lenae
Nai Palm (that weird white girl from Australia got the gift bro)
Hol up dijon man what im bugging lol

HM: durand bernarr, Leon Bridges, Lucky Daye (i’ll tie em cause while I dont listen to a lot of their catalog, gotta put a man on this list out of fairness and they are exceptionally great singers), that nigga from Children of Zeus, Jacob Banks (peep the new album he dropped), and JHud (would she classify as modern?)

doot doot

1y

That being said, I hate to say that Darling, I is a generational song 💔

1996 BRL

1y

Vocal ability i can understand

Musically though
Some of these MFers ain't got it musically

cryforhell

1y

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So I’ve listened to all of Tyler’s consensus best material and imo he’s one of the most overrated rappers out rn. This thread is made because I genuinely want to understand what makes him a great artist to those that enjoy him

He’s literally one of the only artist I’ve ever seen that has been largely carried by their relationships within the industry and how they’re perceived by their peers as well as having a very dedicated fanbase yet no amazing records or universal hits to really show for it. Like logically he’s the natural successor of the lineage of Ye, Pharrell, etc. but it’s not translating the way it should be, like at all. To make matters worse it’s not like his sound needs to grow on you either it’s pretty standard alt-rap

His production is good despite it being imitative but he is just not a good composer and has an issue with being over-ambitious with a clear reluctancy to cutting out the excess fat. Almost every song on Chromakopia is a chore to get through and fits better in context of the album than as individual singles because of how over the top they are. Like Sticky is such a lay up of a hit but it’s just too busy of a f***ing song to listen to on a regular basis

Also, I don’t think him self-producing most of his albums is as a good of a thing as he gets credited for. You can’t make MBDTF or TPAB by self-producing everything. At some point the sound becomes trite and outsourcing to better or other creative minds is a good thing and a fresher take on your artistry

He has a great rapping voice and is a pretty solid rapper but when he tries to switch it up and sing he’s been reliant on the crutch of pitching up his vocals since Flower Boy instead of just taking singing lessons at this point. It’s jarring as f*** to hear that every time he tries to hit notes, I’d rather he use different vocal effects to make it sound less grating

Realistically most users on this site should be a fan of his or at least feel positively about his music but he occupies this awkward space of being too weird for the casuals and not good enough to satisfy the high-brows. He doesn’t have a plethora of hit songs or classic rap albums that are universally appraised or songs that stick on the charts that justify the praise either. Kanye is basically his predecessor and even though he’s generally seen as an artist whose fans are mostly on the “artsy/nerdy” side, he has hits and projects that transcend his demographic. I can bet that most old heads know a Travis Scott song or two and casuals love his albums so there’s no reason why Tyler’s music shouldn’t have a similar affect to some degree

I do think he has the makings of a great artist but he’s put on an extremely high pedestal that I don’t think he’s deserving of

EDIT: Quite a number of folks ITT are misconstruing what I meant by “carried” by other artists, so I’ll add my response here:

He didn’t make it this far by piggybacking off of his relationships, he did it off his own merit. Despite this, his relationships to respected artists has embellished his career without a doubt. Be it OF producing Earl, Frank, The Internet, Steve Lacy + more or his proximity to Pharrell, Rocky, Mac Miller, Solange, etc. all of these connects have benefited his career through osmosis because it feels like he SHOULD be amongst the biggest in the game even if the music hasn’t quite reached the level of those that are from a cultural standpoint. I mean, his friends are universally loved so why wouldn’t he be?

Not only that but his devout fanbase is probably a melting pot of his own fans, remnants of OF’s fanbase and fans of these other artists that adore him