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  • Nov 23, 2020
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    i feel, if we're gonna live in capitalism, why not twist and turn it into the best thing it can be, for the people, not just for the exclusive wealthy club at the top

  • Nov 23, 2020

    for real though OP i dont think this is the best hill to die on.

    the stock market is a symptom/instrument of a certain overarching system, eliminating it on its own would just cause dysfunction and crisis that would affect the ordinary people caught up in its machinations.

    best thing to do is to just get rid of that system

  • Nov 23, 2020
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    you cannot be serious?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socially_responsible_investing

    This has been a huge and real trend in investing the last 10+ years

    Pension funds/countries/companies are moving in the right direction in their allocation of capital

    They are punished when the stock prices go down? When it is exposed that companies do illegal s***?

    Look at a company like Apple (AAPL). Most valuable company in the world. Committed to 100% renewable energy. That's a big difference than even 20 years ago

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    And if you'd like to discuss China, that's a completely different subject. I am no fan of China myself

    Ethical investment been a thing for years lets see how this works out. I am more pessimistic about it than you are

  • plants 🌻
    Nov 23, 2020
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    TragedyBerlusconi

    you seem genuine

    the stock market expresses economic change, it seldom causes it

    even without it, outcome would be the same lol

    It's the response to a market collapsing that I don't agree with. If a company fails, so be it. Bail out the workers and nationalize the industry.

  • Nov 23, 2020
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    sniper

    i feel, if we're gonna live in capitalism, why not twist and turn it into the best thing it can be, for the people, not just for the exclusive wealthy club at the top

    it needs change but full communism will fail

    my idea: social democracy with universal basic income

  • Nov 23, 2020
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    plants

    It's the response to a market collapsing that I don't agree with. If a company fails, so be it. Bail out the workers and nationalize the industry.

    how about provide the workers with enough money to live and find new employmen without stress?

    If we nationalise the company we foster inefficiency

  • what makes you think that?

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    Nov 23, 2020
    plants

    Stock market goes up and nothing changes for the average person.

    Stock market goes down and thousands lose their jobs.

    Yeah I agree thats some BULLSHIT

    i think average people forget how good they really have it if we compare ourselves to these smaller 2nd/3rd world countries

    most of the technological progress of the next 50 years will be those countries catching up to the developed western economies

    when the stock market is "going up" it's like a plane that it is flying. it is going according to plan and it would be weird if it wasn't working properly

  • Nov 23, 2020
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    TragedyBerlusconi

    I consider this a failure of education, im not even close to the top 10% and i have some options

    We should teach the kids financial literacy

    Nah I completely agree man. S*** should be taught in every high school in America at least the basics and fundamentals. You got dudes on ktt calling the market evil

  • Nov 23, 2020
    plants

    It's the response to a market collapsing that I don't agree with. If a company fails, so be it. Bail out the workers and nationalize the industry.

    by the books capitalism should be letting these corporations fail anyway

    socialism right now is only for the wealthy in this country, not the regular people

  • Nov 23, 2020
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    PleaseDelete

    He probably would disagree with me

    Why would you think this

  • plants 🌻
    Nov 23, 2020
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    TragedyBerlusconi

    how about provide the workers with enough money to live and find new employmen without stress?

    If we nationalise the company we foster inefficiency

    I don't see how that fosters inefficiency. Things that went from national to private (see british railways) become absolute dogass and much more expensive.

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    Nov 23, 2020
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    plants

    It's the response to a market collapsing that I don't agree with. If a company fails, so be it. Bail out the workers and nationalize the industry.

    that isn't capitalism

    it's corporate socialism

    or crony capitalism

    that said TARP bailout money from 2009 was fully repaid by those that took it

  • Nov 23, 2020
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    Synopsis

    Why would you think this

    just had a hunch.

  • Nov 23, 2020
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    Side Nigha

    Nah I completely agree man. S*** should be taught in every high school in America at least the basics and fundamentals. You got dudes on ktt calling the market evil

    dumbest s*** ever, im an econ major, their hearts are in the right place but solutions make no sense

  • Nov 23, 2020
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    TragedyBerlusconi

    how about provide the workers with enough money to live and find new employmen without stress?

    If we nationalise the company we foster inefficiency

    competition isnt an intrinsic good .. have you heard of natural monopolies?

  • plants 🌻
    Nov 23, 2020
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    that isn't capitalism

    it's corporate socialism

    or crony capitalism

    that said TARP bailout money from 2009 was fully repaid by those that took it

    No, it's capitalism.

  • plants 🌻
    Nov 23, 2020
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    Like just say capitalism lol

  • coltrup

    competition isnt an intrinsic good .. have you heard of natural monopolies?

    yes lol but not all monopolies are natural

    we should nationalise natural monopolies but break up not natural ones

  • Nov 23, 2020
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    PleaseDelete

    just had a hunch.

    Yes me a very clear communist is going to want to preserve the stock market of all things

  • Nov 23, 2020
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    TragedyBerlusconi

    dumbest s*** ever, im an econ major, their hearts are in the right place but solutions make no sense

    Econ niggas stand up . Working in finance though Wall Street nigha you dig

  • Nov 23, 2020
    Synopsis

    Yes me a very clear communist is going to want to preserve the stock market of all things

    Lmao OK

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