May 18·2 repliesIs 500k out of question now?
May 18·edited·1 replymangotfluRidiculously high peaks caused by this exact thing i'm talking about.. trends. Kendrick was/is seen as the messiah of rap/music by many, many people. Taylor is/was arguably the biggest US celebrity by a factor of like 3x. You're seen as "in" if you're a swiftie, you're seen as cool if you're a Kendrick fan. Disputing this would be crazy.
So when those two artists release new s*** people go crazy. But because they mostly aren't listening because they actually love the music, their hype/streams doesn't last. Whilst for Bad Bunny, Drake and Morgan it does. Because none of those artists have outside factors pushing them along.
Look at Morgan man lol. His peak has lasted like 3-4 years now. It's not gone down at all. That's what having an audience that's OBSESSED with the music gets you
btw you shouldn't discount how much effort taylor and kendrick put into physicals, vinyls, and playlisting to appear as if they were bigger than life. compared to drake who banks on the music to age well over time
- Kr0niic ☘️May 18Blue Man· edited
btw you shouldn't discount how much effort taylor and kendrick put into physicals, vinyls, and playlisting to appear as if they were bigger than life. compared to drake who banks on the music to age well over time
GNX had 0 physicals first week sales
- May 18Mondegreen
Is 500k out of question now?
tbh i thought it was out of the question once he announced it was 3 albums
May 18·1 replymangotfluRidiculously high peaks caused by this exact thing i'm talking about.. trends. Kendrick was/is seen as the messiah of rap/music by many, many people. Taylor is/was arguably the biggest US celebrity by a factor of like 3x. You're seen as "in" if you're a swiftie, you're seen as cool if you're a Kendrick fan. Disputing this would be crazy.
So when those two artists release new s*** people go crazy. But because they mostly aren't listening because they actually love the music, their hype/streams doesn't last. Whilst for Bad Bunny, Drake and Morgan it does. Because none of those artists have outside factors pushing them along.
Look at Morgan man lol. His peak has lasted like 3-4 years now. It's not gone down at all. That's what having an audience that's OBSESSED with the music gets you
The beef gave all of you niggas conspiracy brain
The simple answer is: Morgan Wallen makes more popular music in the 2020s than Kendrick Lamar and Taylor Swift (which is still debatable because Taylor’s daily streams are still higher than Morgan’s right now)
Streaming has completely brainwashed you niggas into thinking that if an artist isn’t averaging 8 billion streams a day then that means all of their hype is fabricated or overestimated
- May 18·1 replymangotflu
funnily enough MUSIC literally proves my point even more
Carti in 2024/2025 was literally the artist to listen to for everyone under 30. You were seen as "in" if you listened to him. It was a huge trend that literally fell off a cliff, because people realised at the end of the day, the music is ass.
The trend and obsession was with the idea of what Carti represents, not the reality of him as an artist.
I'll never understand how Carti managed to be seen as so cool for that period of time. It was really f***ing weird
Or, get this, Carti just dropped a heavily anticipated album that didn’t have longterm commercial success
- May 18·2 repliesshaleirose
The beef gave all of you niggas conspiracy brain
The simple answer is: Morgan Wallen makes more popular music in the 2020s than Kendrick Lamar and Taylor Swift (which is still debatable because Taylor’s daily streams are still higher than Morgan’s right now)
Streaming has completely brainwashed you niggas into thinking that if an artist isn’t averaging 8 billion streams a day then that means all of their hype is fabricated or overestimated
Yeah I never said their hype is fabricated/overestimated. I said their audiences aren't as obsessed with the music compared to Drake/Morgan/Bad Bunny
Weeknd is another great example of exactly what I'm talking about lol. Barely anyone cares about that man on a celeb level. Drake has some celeb power to him. Weeknd has almost none. For The Weeknd his audience is almost entirely obsessed with just the music. Taylor's audience is very largely obsessed with Taylor, the human
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May 18
jynthkendrick’s next album is likely gonna be way less accessible too, meaning it’ll sell less than ICEMAN omg this war is never ending
all it takes is one "tv off" or luther level joint--not even nlu, not sure if anything kendrick does from this point will touch that lightning in a bottle again--but it's definitely possible to have an album of mostly less accessible music than gnx and one slap or sza or rihanna feature that goes #1 and shoots 1st week sales to the moon
- May 18shaleirose
Or, get this, Carti just dropped a heavily anticipated album that didn’t have longterm commercial success
Heavily anticipated because he became one of the biggest trends in overall music culture in the last 10 years, you're literally agreeing with me without realising it
The anticipation wasn't even because of his previous music blowing up either lol, it was literally just a cultural thing where the general public thought he was some insanely cool person that was about to do something actually special
- May 18·1 replymangotflu
Yeah I never said their hype is fabricated/overestimated. I said their audiences aren't as obsessed with the music compared to Drake/Morgan/Bad Bunny
Weeknd is another great example of exactly what I'm talking about lol. Barely anyone cares about that man on a celeb level. Drake has some celeb power to him. Weeknd has almost none. For The Weeknd his audience is almost entirely obsessed with just the music. Taylor's audience is very largely obsessed with Taylor, the human
All you’re doing is describing certain musicians that are more popular than other musicians
- Kr0niic ☘️May 18·1 replyRed Bandana
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I still haven’t been paid
- May 18·3 replies
I will say though: not that he or his team are going to particularly care or act as such, but I do think that the public pressure is on Kendrick to deliver at least one hit record with his next album. If not, the narrative around him is that he actually did need Drake’s name to boost his music commercially (which is a stupid as f*** narrative for a guy with Diamond records, but this is the era of discourse we exist in)
May 18mangotflufunnily enough MUSIC literally proves my point even more
Carti in 2024/2025 was literally the artist to listen to for everyone under 30. You were seen as "in" if you listened to him. It was a huge trend that literally fell off a cliff, because people realised at the end of the day, the music is ass.
The trend and obsession was with the idea of what Carti represents, not the reality of him as an artist.
I'll never understand how Carti managed to be seen as so cool for that period of time. It was really f***ing weird
- May 18shaleirose
All you’re doing is describing certain musicians that are more popular than other musicians
Incredible understanding
SABMAN TURNT 🧔🏻May 18mangotfluYeah I never said their hype is fabricated/overestimated. I said their audiences aren't as obsessed with the music compared to Drake/Morgan/Bad Bunny
Weeknd is another great example of exactly what I'm talking about lol. Barely anyone cares about that man on a celeb level. Drake has some celeb power to him. Weeknd has almost none. For The Weeknd his audience is almost entirely obsessed with just the music. Taylor's audience is very largely obsessed with Taylor, the human
that’s because Abel Tesfaye is a weeb
May 18·1 reply- May 18·3 repliesshaleirose
I will say though: not that he or his team are going to particularly care or act as such, but I do think that the public pressure is on Kendrick to deliver at least one hit record with his next album. If not, the narrative around him is that he actually did need Drake’s name to boost his music commercially (which is a stupid as f*** narrative for a guy with Diamond records, but this is the era of discourse we exist in)
i mean what hits did drake himself have from the albums he released this decade besides nokia and rich flex? most of his songs debut high then fall of a cliff after a few weeks
- May 18
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May 18MondegreenIs 500k out of question now?
Yup. 600 now
May 18Kr0niicI still haven’t been paid
Walls don’t have Cash App. You be waiting for that money forever.
- May 18·2 repliesShabazz999
i mean what hits did drake himself have from the albums he released this decade besides nokia and rich flex? most of his songs debut high then fall of a cliff after a few weeks
you know clb and fatd were released this decade right?
May 18·1 replyShabazz999i mean what hits did drake himself have from the albums he released this decade besides nokia and rich flex? most of his songs debut high then fall of a cliff after a few weeks
Jimmy Cooks has like 1.4 billion streams its a hit
May 18https://twitter.com/spotify_numbers/status/2056378041501114771Red BandanaMan wtf going on? Lucian send help!
pretty good for a surprise drop tbh
May 18·3 repliesNoah outsold Harry