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  • Kr0niic ā˜˜ļø
    CGI Dog

    Drake lost

  • CGI Dog

    Drake lost

    Only took 1 month Drake stans and their hubris

  • Dudes gassing up 40 variants from a pop girl in here

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    shaleirose

    It’s not the only reason. Nobody is saying that Drake dropping 20+ song albums is the reason he’s popular on streaming. But it absolutely has an effect on how many streams his albums get first week

    Drake isn’t dropping 20 song albums to inflate his numbers, he’s dropping 20 song albums because he wants to appeal to more fans

    if you took the 3 least played songs off iceman, it’s not gonna impact how many streams the album got first week. everyone who decided to play Drake for 1 hour will still have played Drake for 1 hour

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    John Mauve

    "real ones" and it's about chartwatching

    as opposed to pocket watching?

  • big dog rodrigo

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    SABMAN TURNT

    Drake isn’t dropping 20 song albums to inflate his numbers, he’s dropping 20 song albums because he wants to appeal to more fans

    if you took the 3 least played songs off iceman, it’s not gonna impact how many streams the album got first week. everyone who decided to play Drake for 1 hour will still have played Drake for 1 hour

    ā€œIf you took off the 3 least played songs off the album, it wouldn’t affect how many streams the album got first weekā€

    Yeah if you remove 46M streams from 462M streams the total somehow still comes out to 462M!

    No one is sitting down when a new album comes out saying ā€œI’m gonna listen to Drake for one hour today!ā€

    They’re playing the album at least once in full, and then repeating the songs they like the most after that. More songs = more streams off the initial first listen and more potential songs to choose from for favorites

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    If you don’t wanna take my word for it, then go look at the highest 25 streamed first weeks ever and count how many are at least 18-20+ song albums:

    ktt2.com/biggest-streaming-weeks-on-the-billboard-200-76952

    The stats tell the story. More songs = higher possibility of more streams first week

  • John Mauve šŸŗ
    SABMAN TURNT

    as opposed to pocket watching?

    No?

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    shaleirose

    ā€œIf you took off the 3 least played songs off the album, it wouldn’t affect how many streams the album got first weekā€

    Yeah if you remove 46M streams from 462M streams the total somehow still comes out to 462M!

    No one is sitting down when a new album comes out saying ā€œI’m gonna listen to Drake for one hour today!ā€

    They’re playing the album at least once in full, and then repeating the songs they like the most after that. More songs = more streams off the initial first listen and more potential songs to choose from for favorites

    no, those 46M streams would just be distributed among the other songs on the album

    tracklist play counts usually decrease as the tracklist goes on, unless there are standout hits. with 3 less songs, the later tracks would just get more plays. anyone who says ā€œi have 35 minutes to listen to songs from ICEMAN right nowā€ would play ICEMAN for 35 minutes no matter how many songs are on the tracklist

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    shaleirose

    If you don’t wanna take my word for it, then go look at the highest 25 streamed first weeks ever and count how many are at least 18-20+ song albums:

    https://www.ktt2.com/biggest-streaming-weeks-on-the-billboard-200-76952

    The stats tell the story. More songs = higher possibility of more streams first week

    you took the dumbest lesson from this

    the highest streaming weeks are from albums by Taylor Swift, Drake, Juice WRLD, Post Malone, Kanye West, Lil Wayne, Cardi B, Kendrick Lamar, etc.

    it has nothing to do with tracklist length, it has everything to do with those being incredibly popular artists

  • SABMAN TURNT

    no, those 46M streams would just be distributed among the other songs on the album

    tracklist play counts usually decrease as the tracklist goes on, unless there are standout hits. with 3 less songs, the later tracks would just get more plays. anyone who says ā€œi have 35 minutes to listen to songs from ICEMAN right nowā€ would play ICEMAN for 35 minutes no matter how many songs are on the tracklist

    That’s not how that works whatsoever, and there’s literally zero evidence to back that up

  • The promo is insane tho

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    they were playing Iceman at Panera today and not Olivia Rodrigo

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    SABMAN TURNT

    you took the dumbest lesson from this

    the highest streaming weeks are from albums by Taylor Swift, Drake, Juice WRLD, Post Malone, Kanye West, Lil Wayne, Cardi B, Kendrick Lamar, etc.

    it has nothing to do with tracklist length, it has everything to do with those being incredibly popular artists

    Four albums in the Top 25 are under 18 songs:

    Showgirl - 12 songs
    Her Loss - 16 songs
    GNX - 12 songs
    Astroworld - 17 songs

    • Taylor Swift is Taylor Swift

    • For Drake, he’s dropped five projects under 18 songs in the streaming era. 1 out of 5 of them have debuted with 300M+ streams

    • Kendrick was coming off the hottest year for a rapper this decade, GNX was highly anticipated

    • Travis is the biggest outlier here, but even still it was only one track less than 18

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    shaleirose

    Four albums in the Top 25 are under 18 songs:

    Showgirl - 12 songs
    Her Loss - 16 songs
    GNX - 12 songs
    Astroworld - 17 songs

    • Taylor Swift is Taylor Swift

    • For Drake, he’s dropped five projects under 18 songs in the streaming era. 1 out of 5 of them have debuted with 300M+ streams

    • Kendrick was coming off the hottest year for a rapper this decade, GNX was highly anticipated

    • Travis is the biggest outlier here, but even still it was only one track less than 18

    big artists release long albums to cover every corner of their fanbase, it has nothing to do with tracklist length gaming the system for streams lmfao

    artists who are good at making music release music often because they can consistently make good songs. those artists become popular because they’re good at what they do.

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    SABMAN TURNT

    big artists release long albums to cover every corner of their fanbase, it has nothing to do with tracklist length gaming the system for streams lmfao

    artists who are good at making music release music often because they can consistently make good songs. those artists become popular because they’re good at what they do.

    Yes I’m sure these multi-millionaire, profit-driven, capitalist artists don’t see any value or benefit by releasing longer albums in the streaming era

    Loved all the 30+ song albums that were topping the charts from 2005 to 2015

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    I don’t know the actual numbers but I’m very certain the 2020s has had more #1 albums with 30+ songs than any other decade in history

  • shaleirose

    Yes I’m sure these multi-millionaire, profit-driven, capitalist artists don’t see any value or benefit by releasing longer albums in the streaming era

    Loved all the 30+ song albums that were topping the charts from 2005 to 2015

    Go by some rap CDs from 2005, they basically all were 22 or more tracks

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    shaleirose

    I don’t know the actual numbers but I’m very certain the 2020s has had more #1 albums with 30+ songs than any other decade in history

    Which albums are you thinking of? Lil Uzi vert, Playboi Carti? Who else even did this

    Honestly it’s probably similar to other decades, it’s a relatively rare thing but not unheard of.

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    shaleirose

    I don’t know the actual numbers but I’m very certain the 2020s has had more #1 albums with 30+ songs than any other decade in history

    previous audio formats (vinyl, CD) were constrained by physical space on the discs

    so yea obviously there are more long albums now that it’s not an issue

    nothing to do with it being better for sales though

  • 2words

    Which albums are you thinking of? Lil Uzi vert, Playboi Carti? Who else even did this

    Honestly it’s probably similar to other decades, it’s a relatively rare thing but not unheard of.

    Taylor Swift
    Carti
    Morgan Wallen (3 times)

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    SABMAN TURNT

    previous audio formats (vinyl, CD) were constrained by physical space on the discs

    so yea obviously there are more long albums now that it’s not an issue

    nothing to do with it being better for sales though

    Lmao I knew you would go there. Music has been mostly digital since the late 2000s at the very latest

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    shaleirose

    Lmao I knew you would go there. Music has been mostly digital since the late 2000s at the very latest

    you definitely need to re-check the timeline

    digital started becoming popular in the late 00s, but it was never prioritized over physicals until streaming

    Kanye not doing physicals for Yeezus in 2013 was unheard of, and it didn’t even make a dent because nobody else followed suit for years. even Kanye went back to doing physicals for TLOP, his next album.