You don't know the average person if you think they're listening to albums from front to back regularly
Unless! they're a stan who's boosting their favs numbers for shallow records and padded stats
Unless! they're a stan who's boosting their favs numbers for shallow records and padded stats
If people were regularly listening to albums from start to finish, then stream counts on albums would be more consistent from top to bottom. But that's not the case at all, and we see it during debut weeks when an album's first 4-5 songs chart the highest and the lowest charting songs are literally always the final few on the album
Morgan is way more popular on Apple Music than Spotify, and he has a handful of songs in the Global Top 100 on AM right now
I already explained Take Care. The three hits on that album are making up 40% of its streams right now on Spotify
Well he has 3 albums in the top 200 with 0 songs in the top 200. he clearly isn't just having 2-3 hits from his albums added to playlists and listened to with loads of other artists in the playlist, his fanbase are listening to huge parts of the albums regularly. I genuinely believe a lot of people stick to only 1-3 artists a lot more now than 5 years ago. the game has changed a lot
3 hits making up 40% of your streams on a 15 year album is insane. So the other 60% is coming from deep cuts. That's what I'm talking about. That's not from people clicking shuffle on a 500 song playlist filled with other artists.
wow its on bilboard too
what tiktok did this
your list is showing my point even more tho tbh, and I actually do think playlist culture is bigger outside the US. Albums are a huge thing culturally in the US compared to the rest of the world
you've got Sweater Weather at #35, whilst the album I Love You is at #117
Mr Brightside at #33, whilst the album Hot Fuss is at #123
meanwhile Take Care the album is at #91, higher than both those albums. There's not a single song from that album on the top 200
Morgan Wallen has a grand total of 0 songs on the top 200 global. Yet 3 albums on the top 200 global
good research flu
keep it up
Well he has 3 albums in the top 200 with 0 songs in the top 200. he clearly isn't just having 2-3 hits from his albums added to playlists and listened to with loads of other artists in the playlist, his fanbase are listening to huge parts of the albums regularly. I genuinely believe a lot of people stick to only 1-3 artists a lot more now than 5 years ago. the game has changed a lot
3 hits making up 40% of your streams on a 15 year album is insane. So the other 60% is coming from deep cuts. That's what I'm talking about. That's not from people clicking shuffle on a 500 song playlist filled with other artists.
And in Take Care's case, that once again ties back into the length of the album. Look at NWTS, which has half of its 5B streams coming from its 3 biggest songs.
Going back to your original point, Hot Fuss and I Love You both only have 11 songs, so it makes sense that the bigger percentage of their streams are coming from the most popular songs
Drake won
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If people were regularly listening to albums from start to finish, then stream counts on albums would be more consistent from top to bottom. But that's not the case at all, and we see it during debut weeks when an album's first 4-5 songs chart the highest and the lowest charting songs are literally always the final few on the album
I'm just saying it's far more popular now than 2016-2018. A lot of that is because the new music coming out is way worse than then. Back then making playlists made sense as you got a lot of good new music from a lot of different artists every week almost. Now it's much rarer
Now people are listening to 1 artist only playlists far more, and albums front to back a lot more
Look at singles man, this is undeniable there is no f***ing way anyone can deny that single releases are so much less effective now than ever before. Barely anyone gives a f*** about singles now. But s*** I actually think new album hype is the biggest its been in 20+ years. Why doesn't that hype exist for new singles? It used to in 2018
I'm just saying it's far more popular now than 2016-2018. A lot of that is because the new music coming out is way worse than then. Back then making playlists made sense as you got a lot of good new music from a lot of different artists every week almost. Now it's much rarer
Now people are listening to 1 artist only playlists far more, and albums front to back a lot more
Look at singles man, this is undeniable there is no f***ing way anyone can deny that single releases are so much less effective now than ever before. Barely anyone gives a f*** about singles now. But s*** I actually think new album hype is the biggest its been in 20+ years. Why doesn't that hype exist for new singles? It used to in 2018
Because people want full-length projects that they can pick their favorite songs from
If the single was dead then there wouldn't be songs that blow up crazy after full albums get released (luther, Opalite, BIRDS OF A FEATHER, Janice STFU, etc.)
And in Take Care's case, that once again ties back into the length of the album. Look at NWTS, which has half of its 5B streams coming from its 3 biggest songs.
Going back to your original point, Hot Fuss and I Love You both only have 11 songs, so it makes sense that the bigger percentage of their streams are coming from the most popular songs
Those albums are just not great outside of those songs though, so people listen to those hits and never the rest of the album, this is what Drake understood early and what made him so popular. Limiting your album to 2~ hits and filling the rest with scraps was a very common thing until the streaming era took off, so you could keep em for the next one
SOUR 11 songs, 6.1m a day
deja vu 1.00m
traitor 0.98m
drivers license 0.9m
2.88m. 47% streams from top 3 hits
the life of a showgirl, 12 songs, 6.8m a day
Ophelia 2.65m
opalite 1.4m
elizabeth taylor 0.49m
4.54m, 66% streams from top 3 hits
gnx 12 songs, 2.5m a day
luther 0.95m
tv off 0.58m
squabble up 0.31m
1.84m, 73% streams from top 3 hits
Look at SOUR v Showgirl/GNX... Showgirl has a way bigger hit than SOUR right now but sour is so much more replayable than sour so it's almost outstreaming it daily, and probably will be within a few months
Those albums are just not great outside of those songs though, so people listen to those hits and never the rest of the album, this is what Drake understood early and what made him so popular. Limiting your album to 2~ hits and filling the rest with scraps was a very common thing until the streaming era took off, so you could keep em for the next one
SOUR 11 songs, 6.1m a day
deja vu 1.00m
traitor 0.98m
drivers license 0.9m
2.88m. 47% streams from top 3 hits
the life of a showgirl, 12 songs, 6.8m a day
Ophelia 2.65m
opalite 1.4m
elizabeth taylor 0.49m
4.54m, 66% streams from top 3 hits
gnx 12 songs, 2.5m a day
luther 0.95m
tv off 0.58m
squabble up 0.31m
1.84m, 73% streams from top 3 hits
Look at SOUR v Showgirl/GNX... Showgirl has a way bigger hit than SOUR right now but sour is so much more replayable than sour so it's almost outstreaming it daily, and probably will be within a few months
You always use Sour as the barometer for short albums and fail to realize that it's the exception to the rule. The performance of that album is a complete anomaly in the streaming era.
17 billion streams for an 11-track album is completely unheard of.
In the streaming era, Sour is probably the closest thing to a Thriller-type album where almost every single one of its 9-11 songs is extremely popular
You always use Sour as the barometer for short albums and fail to realize that it's the exception to the rule. The performance of that album is a complete anomaly in the streaming era.
17 billion streams for an 11-track album is completely unheard of.
In the streaming era, Sour is probably the closest thing to a Thriller-type album where almost every single one of its 9-11 songs is extremely popular
Short n Sweet is also 12 songs, 5.3m a day
hit me hard and soft is 10 songs, 6.7m a day
meanwhile taylor swift
tortured poets department 31 songs, 4.6m a day
Maybe I'm just in a bubble. I know a lot of people now that prefer just putting an album on and listening front to back. Skipping when bored, to the next album. Short albums are much better for this, because very few artists can pull off long albums. Taylor is not one of those. Morgan/Drake/Bad Bunny are
Drake won
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Short n Sweet is also 12 songs, 5.3m a day
hit me hard and soft is 10 songs, 6.7m a day
meanwhile taylor swift
tortured poets department 31 songs, 4.6m a day
Maybe I'm just in a bubble. I know a lot of people now that prefer just putting an album on and listening front to back. Skipping when bored, to the next album. Short albums are much better for this, because very few artists can pull off long albums. Taylor is not one of those. Morgan/Drake/Bad Bunny are
You are definitely in a bubble. The vast majority of people (especially younger people) are not regularly listening to albums start to finish
What you're describing is exactly the playlist phenomenon
You are definitely in a bubble. The vast majority of people (especially younger people) are not regularly listening to albums start to finish
What you're describing is exactly the playlist phenomenon
So why doesn't the playlist phenonmeon exist when artists release new singles anymore? It used to in 2018
The big labels have even stopped releasing singles a lot of the time lol
Even damn BTS didn't have a comeback single before ARIANG
So why doesn't the playlist phenonmeon exist when artists release new singles anymore? It used to in 2018
The big labels have even stopped releasing singles a lot of the time lol
Even damn BTS didn't have a comeback single before ARIANG
Because labels have realized that it's more cost-effective to let the public decide what the hits are first and then put the marketing dollars behind those songs, rather than taking a gamble by releasing what they think will be the hit
And plenty of artists still release singles, the big labels haven't stopped at all. But what's happening more lately is that the songs that become big are the ones that release after the full album drops
crazy how everyone but drake does this at the top of the charts
Because labels have realized that it's more cost-effective to let the public decide what the hits are first and then put the marketing dollars behind those songs, rather than taking a gamble by releasing what they think will be the hit
And plenty of artists still release singles, the big labels haven't stopped at all. But what's happening more lately is that the songs that become big are the ones that release after the full album drops
Yeah but even when artists do it the general public cares way less than ever before. A lot of these artists like Olivia/Ariana have even stopped putting out traditional pop singles, it's songs that 10 years ago would have been deep cuts instead. There's definitely a reason behind that... it's not like there's a big cost behind putting a single out either
oh jen
Now building a comfortable lead on GNX. Cool to see the longevity is great with this album.
AOTY
love to see it
Yeah but even when artists do it the general public cares way less than ever before. A lot of these artists like Olivia/Ariana have even stopped putting out traditional pop singles, it's songs that 10 years ago would have been deep cuts instead. There's definitely a reason behind that... it's not like there's a big cost behind putting a single out either
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Olivia released two singles before Guts, and those two songs are still the biggest songs on the album to this day. So far she's released two singles for her new album, and they've been performing pretty well.
Ariana released one single before Positions, the title track, and it's her 8th highest streamed song ever with 1.7B streams. For eternal sunshine, she only dropped yes, and? before the album's release, and that debuted at #1 and was pretty successful. So far, this new album is the only one that she's dropped with a more lowkey lead single, but it could be a different type of project for her