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  • Mar 23
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    So you’re saying we should lean harder into an us vs them mentality?

  • Mar 23

    OP lowkey right

  • Mar 23
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    You're kinda in the ballpark.

    Tribalism, at least in its earliest stages, generally relied on an economic system referred to a "primitive communism". It was effectively communized resource distribution in a pre-industrial world, where resource scarcity was materially unavoidable but most of what was able to be procured was shared equitably amongst producers. This made for a modest way of life, but had a closer-to-egalitarian economic structure than succeeding MOPs (prior to socialism)

    Socialism takes these values, but scales its potential to match a globalized economy/industrial society. Modern industrial production is capable of transcending perpetual and in some cases even periodic scarcity, so the needs of all or the vast majority of people can be satisfied without any extra effort, or through no effort at all in some cases. Now that we can do this, we should redistribute this massive output of resources, and the money that mediates the transactions of these resources between producers and consumers, so that everybody's needs can be met. Above all else, the entire working society is involved one way or another in this production itself, and there's no sensible reason to withhold an adequate amount, let alone surplus, of a resource/commodity from the producers of society having access to them. The only reason we do that now is for the sake of producing profits for capitalists, who, amongst other things, use the money (stolen wages) to buy private islands to molest children on.

    It's socialism or bust. Tribalism will produce the same contradictions that created the evolutionary pattern to a more sophisticated mode of production in the first place. It isn't sustainable as a long-term MOP, it's just a bit more sustainable than late-stage capitalism, because late-stage capitalism is the most destructive MOP outside of outright fascism the world has ever seen.

  • Nessy 🦎
    Mar 23

    it's still around and it sucks major d***s

  • who are we tribbing to

  • RASIE 🎣
    Mar 24

    😂

  • Ulyanov_

    You're kinda in the ballpark.

    Tribalism, at least in its earliest stages, generally relied on an economic system referred to a "primitive communism". It was effectively communized resource distribution in a pre-industrial world, where resource scarcity was materially unavoidable but most of what was able to be procured was shared equitably amongst producers. This made for a modest way of life, but had a closer-to-egalitarian economic structure than succeeding MOPs (prior to socialism)

    Socialism takes these values, but scales its potential to match a globalized economy/industrial society. Modern industrial production is capable of transcending perpetual and in some cases even periodic scarcity, so the needs of all or the vast majority of people can be satisfied without any extra effort, or through no effort at all in some cases. Now that we can do this, we should redistribute this massive output of resources, and the money that mediates the transactions of these resources between producers and consumers, so that everybody's needs can be met. Above all else, the entire working society is involved one way or another in this production itself, and there's no sensible reason to withhold an adequate amount, let alone surplus, of a resource/commodity from the producers of society having access to them. The only reason we do that now is for the sake of producing profits for capitalists, who, amongst other things, use the money (stolen wages) to buy private islands to molest children on.

    It's socialism or bust. Tribalism will produce the same contradictions that created the evolutionary pattern to a more sophisticated mode of production in the first place. It isn't sustainable as a long-term MOP, it's just a bit more sustainable than late-stage capitalism, because late-stage capitalism is the most destructive MOP outside of outright fascism the world has ever seen.

    socialism or barbarism

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  • nerdy

    this one of my favorite pfps

  • Mar 25
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    Poolboy Q

    So you’re saying we should lean harder into an us vs them mentality?

    Yes, if we want authenticity back. We can’t continue with the z⭐️nist machine being the main assessment of your character. We have so many fragmented culture and communities now we need to “touch base”

  • Mar 25

    Nah, we need community at times like these more than anything else. tribalism isn't the way out, it's just the direction we're being pushed in.