Anyone that tells you that Joel was wrong is a evil human being and would 1000000% murder their kids and or loved ones for a gamble that may not even work
I hate Joel even more now after the show.
In the game his actions kinda seemed OK simply coz you pretty much kill anybody onsight, so a bunch of fireflies in a hospital wasn't that huge of a deal.
But in the show he pretty much commits a massacre never seen before, even murders people that wanted to surrender just out of spite and the off chance that "they might come back to look for her".
All that just so he can feel like he finally had that second chance to save his daughter. Sick MF.
Spite
They were all a threat to him and Ellie, they had to go. They only brought it on themselves
I hate Joel even more now after the show.
In the game his actions kinda seemed OK simply coz you pretty much kill anybody onsight, so a bunch of fireflies in a hospital wasn't that huge of a deal.
But in the show he pretty much commits a massacre never seen before, even murders people that wanted to surrender just out of spite and the off chance that "they might come back to look for her".
All that just so he can feel like he finally had that second chance to save his daughter. Sick MF.
You’d murder your own kids you sick mf
Spite
They were all a threat to him and Ellie, they had to go. They only brought it on themselves
They weren't a threat to Ellie in anyway. They were trying to create a cure to save humanity and give newer generations the chance to live a normal life
You’d murder your own kids you sick mf
Ellie wasn't his kid, and he didn't have the right to decide her fate, especially since she would have 100% agreed to the surgery. Just go back to their speech in the giraffe scene. She wanted to help create the cure no matter what.
Hes simply a selfish a******
They weren't a threat to Ellie in anyway. They were trying to create a cure to save humanity and give newer generations the chance to live a normal life
That wasnt a guarantee
Marlene never gave her a choice either
Ellie wasn't his kid, and he didn't have the right to decide her fate, especially since she would have 100% agreed to the surgery. Just go back to their speech in the giraffe scene. She wanted to help create the cure no matter what.
Hes simply a selfish a******
HE SAW HER AS HIS OWN KID AFTER ALL THE S*** THEY BEEN THROUGH We don’t know if she would have 100% agreed. They had other people and they botched it too(videogame).
MARLENE DIDNT GIVE HER A CHOICE JUSY STRAIGHT UP D***GED HER!They had old ass equipment. In the first two cold open
The scientist says there wouldn’t be a cure
The lady didn’t even try to get a cure she said just bomb this s*** and lemme go be with my fam.
There is no guarantee this would’ve worked they would’ve butchered her for A GAMBLE? YOU ARE A DEGENERATE GAMBLER AND WOULD GAMBLE KIDS LIVES
Oh lord it’s 2013 again ending debates
Oh lord it’s 2013 again ending debates

JOEL DID THE RIGHT CHOICE AND I WOULD DO IT TOO
AINT NO ONE MURDERING BABY GIRL

JOEL DID THE RIGHT CHOICE AND I WOULD DO IT TOO
AINT NO ONE MURDERING BABY GIRL

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That wasnt a guarantee
Marlene never gave her a choice either
We acting like if there was a "guarantee" Joel would've just accepted it. He wouldn't.
He'll rather doom humanity for eternity for his own selfish reasons regardless. He's sick.
Numbers are insane
75% INCREASE from episode 1 viewership
Average viewership higher than HOTD
Who would have thought after HOTD had HUGE numbers
joel's decision was clearly selfish. but if you don't have at least a bit of sympathy as to where his decision came from idk what to tell you
you don't have to agree with joel, but you should be able to understand him
Man this has been one of the most rewarding experiences ever for me
Having played both games, the amount of lore we got in just last nights episode alone and how it deepens what I know about these characters further is just astonishing. I mean this is s*** niggas who played the game weren’t even privy to yet! The first 10 mins had me in a complete spell! Absolutely legendary!
We acting like if there was a "guarantee" Joel would've just accepted it. He wouldn't.
He'll rather doom humanity for eternity for his own selfish reasons regardless. He's sick.
i mean, it was probably hard to be optimistic for the future of humanity after living in the world they lived in for 20 years. plus think of how many times joel had heard about "the cure might have been found!"
also one thing the show did that the game never really did was emphasize how there was like 0 chance of a cure. multiple flashback scenes in the start of the show that was just "nah nope a cure isn't happening." it's not a disease, it's a fungal growth that takes the brain
the game left the possibility of a cure much more up in the air, but i felt like the point here was there really was likely no chance ellie's death would've amounted to anything
HE SAW HER AS HIS OWN KID AFTER ALL THE S*** THEY BEEN THROUGH We don’t know if she would have 100% agreed. They had other people and they botched it too(videogame).
MARLENE DIDNT GIVE HER A CHOICE JUSY STRAIGHT UP D***GED HER!They had old ass equipment. In the first two cold open
The scientist says there wouldn’t be a cure
The lady didn’t even try to get a cure she said just bomb this s*** and lemme go be with my fam.
There is no guarantee this would’ve worked they would’ve butchered her for A GAMBLE? YOU ARE A DEGENERATE GAMBLER AND WOULD GAMBLE KIDS LIVES
Just coz they didn't think there would be a cure in the beginning of the outbreak, that doesnt mean there wouldn't be a cure eventually.
Ellie is clearly immune, so there is definitely a way to cure it, and taking the chance is always the right thing to do no matter what.
Just coz they didn't think there would be a cure in the beginning of the outbreak, that doesnt mean there wouldn't be a cure eventually.
Ellie is clearly immune, so there is definitely a way to cure it, and taking the chance is always the right thing to do no matter what.
oh didn't realize that guy covered the same argument i did lol
Man this has been one of the most rewarding experiences ever for me
Having played both games, the amount of lore we got in just last nights episode alone and how it deepens what I know about these characters further is just astonishing. I mean this is s*** niggas who played the game weren’t even privy to yet! The first 10 mins had me in a complete spell! Absolutely legendary!
My thoughts exactly FlyMx
Just coz they didn't think there would be a cure in the beginning of the outbreak, that doesnt mean there wouldn't be a cure eventually.
Ellie is clearly immune, so there is definitely a way to cure it, and taking the chance is always the right thing to do no matter what.
Taking a chance a gamble.
WHILE BABY GIRL IS BUTCHERED MAN GTFO WITH THAT DEGENERATE GAMBLER S*** BRUV
YOU ARE A CHILD KILLA!!!