Yea this is one of those episodes you never go back to

Charlamagne said joe is a bad negotiator and I agree. How they got you doing 2 pods a week yet you never ask about vacation time? Cant be mad at spotify for something you shouldve handled back then.

He brags about knowing his value but I think he’s just a bad negotiator and lets his emotions get in the way of his business. Prolly his fault the complex s*** fell through too

Not sure how Joe is a bad negotiator for turning down a podcast 360 deal where they own all his stuff and don't even give him revenue share from ads lol. He's also correct in looking at what other podcasts are being bought out for, looking at his metrics and then coming up with numbers based off of that. It's also not abnormal for him to expect to renogtiate based off of great performance on top of that - you do that s*** in 9-5 jobs, sports, music, film/tv lol. If you followed the Call Her Daddy beef, the girl who ended up winning was the one who fought to keep the IP at the end of the day and do splits on merch etc. On some level Spotify should've taken Barstool's approach and actually helped improve their brand, given them the tools they need to even stream some of the tour dates live and taken a cut. He's right to value time spent listening - if his audience are locking in for 2-3 hours podcasts twice a week that means there's more potential for those same listeners to find other things to listen to on said platform instead of going elsewhere. Some podcast listeners also watch on youtube, so he's right to see a lot of value in that especially if Spotify are building a video platform lol.

I'd say the JBP is in a good spot independently especially if they're just going to put the podcast out on all platforms. Personally I think they should also start looking into establishing a presence on video streaming platforms like Twitch - just edit some of the podcasts then have them streaming 24/7, people are watching w/e these days. Also utilising their website more and upping their merch game.

Let my handle my business, damn!

holy s*** that is a wild image lmfao.

Savon can be one hit away his whole career, as long as the pod alive he got a job somewhere.

Can tell some of yall weren't in the joe budden tv forum back in the day

like i said find it hard to believe they would ask for pull up too. Its been going on since before spotify and not even related to the pod.

...it's part of the JBP brand, which they want ownership of hence the offering of a 360 deal, and is extra content with music artists for a platform who's business is music. Doesn't matter if it was going on before, they want ownership of it going forward lol

Ah yeah that changes things lol I don’t why I forgot about that aspect

Episode 288 is a classic, starts with Mal asking that woman at the masterclass if she has a boyfriend, then Joe says he would be a hoe if he was a woman, Rory says he loves tip and the whole Logic twisted off the juice breakdown followed by the JT lyric reading.

Whole pod was less than 2hrs too

Akademiks discussed the Spotify offer on stream, uploaded the section.

• Basically says he agrees with Joe in principal, but not the way he tries to get there.
• Attacks Rory & Mal, says they done nothing with being on JBP which limits what Joe can negotiate, and his claims of being a network
• Says since Joe keeps complaining about the deals he is offered, he should get the money through YouTube and Twitch ad models.

Bout to give that a listen

Imagine a JBP twitch deal

Streaming the podcast live

I honestly do wonder how Joe would’ve done with a podcast network though. I swear I’ve heard him talk podcasts with Vince Staples and Freddie Gibbs before.

Prolly attach Need To Know
Also mentions in the past a business/financial pod in some way
Parks can have what illmind has with an engineer mindset

AK hates Rory and Mal.

Rory throws the biggest parties which is a proven product already and I think he produces I forgot.

Outside of selling d**** I’m not sure what Mal does

Called rury and mal the stooges