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  • Mar 14, 2021
    ithaka

    genre variété, julien clerc type

    The industry is very agist
    Damn.

  • Mar 14, 2021
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    ithaka

    💙 maybe you’d like smiley smile

    smile is the shelved masterpiece so they dropped smiley smile instead a trippy asl take on some of the smile material

    don’t think donut will be into it tho

    Wait what album does smiley smile come after?
    In asf for some trippy beachboys vibes

  • Mar 14, 2021
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    imdoinf

    Wait what album does smiley smile come after?
    In asf for some trippy beachboys vibes

    smiley smile is the most bbs stoner album ever

    it’s what came after pet sounds - smile was gonna follow it up but it was shelved

  • Mar 14, 2021
    ithaka

    not sure gonna check back when im off

    i kinda hate what he tried to do with sunrays bc like shutting down his fam trying to go forward and experiment and just recreating a pop group for it to be the next bbs but ngl some of their s*** is hot like that sun song is some serious punk prototype like those guitars for that time are pretty radical

    !https://youtu.be/ZXXKCua4iL0

    @RVI

    what you say @Noir

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    ithaka

    smiley smile is the most bbs stoner album ever

    it’s what came after pet sounds - smile was gonna follow it up but it was shelved

    Today and Pet Sounds are pretty stoney, Smiley Smile a full blown acid trip

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    Was surprised to find out California Girls was the first thing he composed on acid... only vaguest hints of psych

  • Mar 14, 2021
    ithaka

    smiley smile is the most bbs stoner album ever

    it’s what came after pet sounds - smile was gonna follow it up but it was shelved

    Oh okay then yeah I skipped that

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    Elric

    Today and Pet Sounds are pretty stoney, Smiley Smile a full blown acid trip

    mmmm

    idk about today

    i can see that with pet sounds yeah

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    Elric

    Was surprised to find out California Girls was the first thing he composed on acid... only vaguest hints of psych

    really? idk if your first trip would make you switch from surfin usa to fire elements type beat, california girls seems a good middle ground especially the intro is really trippy

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    Mar 15, 2021
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    ithaka

    really? idk if your first trip would make you switch from surfin usa to fire elements type beat, california girls seems a good middle ground especially the intro is really trippy

    yeah i feel this, not psychedelic elements per se (imo) but California Girls definitely has the creativity aspect where it makes some sense he got inspiration from d****, and that was the first evidence for it

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    ithaka

    mmmm

    idk about today

    i can see that with pet sounds yeah

    side 2 of Today is their Rubber Soul when the music got really textured and nuanced and the lyrics got much deeper and more personal than pop music had been up to that point. First steps toward cementing The Album as an art form.

    perfect '65 smoking music along with first two Byrds and electric Dylans

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    ithaka

    really? idk if your first trip would make you switch from surfin usa to fire elements type beat, california girls seems a good middle ground especially the intro is really trippy

    yeah its all about the intro and yeah knowing how people are with acid he probably started micro in '65 and by '67 was absolutely gobbling it

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    rvi

    yeah i feel this, not psychedelic elements per se (imo) but California Girls definitely has the creativity aspect where it makes some sense he got inspiration from d****, and that was the first evidence for it

    why are mushrooms the only d*** without a rock and roll legacy

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    Elric

    why are mushrooms the only d*** without a rock and roll legacy

    i think mushrooms were one of the things Todd was doing during the A Wizard A True Star era

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    rvi

    i think mushrooms were one of the things Todd was doing during the A Wizard A True Star era

    that explain Zen Archer

    @Ithaka what you think of this? theres more than a bit of Brian in it

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    Elric

    why are mushrooms the only d*** without a rock and roll legacy

    theres a chart of d**** legacy on music?

  • Mar 15, 2021
    Elric

    that explain Zen Archer

    @Ithaka what you think of this? theres more than a bit of Brian in it

    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LDBqP9pX5E

    todd def a bbs head he covered good vibrations iirc

    ill have to check later

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    ithaka

    theres a chart of d**** legacy on music?

    No chart but there's definitely a bunch of specific movements either completely triggered or at least influenced by whatever d**** were available at the time. Just a few;

    amphetamine; early rock and roll

    pot; folk, early psych

    acid; psych

    heroin; jazz, dark voodoo classic rock albums, brit punk, grunge

    coke; overblown 70s rock, overblown 80s rock

    ecstasy; manchester and some britpop

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    Elric

    No chart but there's definitely a bunch of specific movements either completely triggered or at least influenced by whatever d**** were available at the time. Just a few;

    amphetamine; early rock and roll

    pot; folk, early psych

    acid; psych

    heroin; jazz, dark voodoo classic rock albums, brit punk, grunge

    coke; overblown 70s rock, overblown 80s rock

    ecstasy; manchester and some britpop

    the hell is dark voodoo rock

    and what about meth or crack?

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    ithaka

    the hell is dark voodoo rock

    and what about meth or crack?

    Lol by dark vodoo rock I basically mean any good classic rock from the late 60s and early 70s; Hendrix, Stooges, Stones, Zeppelin

    Meth is amphetamine so like I said the early rock and roll but also alot of electronic music later on probably. Grimes for sure.

    Alot of the people doing coke in any genre and were eventually doing crack but idk if they ever made musical waves at that point. Rvi might have some examples. Happy Mondays the only band I can think of with a crack classic.

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    Elric

    Lol by dark vodoo rock I basically mean any good classic rock from the late 60s and early 70s; Hendrix, Stooges, Stones, Zeppelin

    Meth is amphetamine so like I said the early rock and roll but also alot of electronic music later on probably. Grimes for sure.

    Alot of the people doing coke in any genre and were eventually doing crack but idk if they ever made musical waves at that point. Rvi might have some examples. Happy Mondays the only band I can think of with a crack classic.

    crack classic

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  • Mar 15, 2021
    Eyesonthesmile
    !https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4ExZZH1v0TM

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    Elric

    Lol by dark vodoo rock I basically mean any good classic rock from the late 60s and early 70s; Hendrix, Stooges, Stones, Zeppelin

    Meth is amphetamine so like I said the early rock and roll but also alot of electronic music later on probably. Grimes for sure.

    Alot of the people doing coke in any genre and were eventually doing crack but idk if they ever made musical waves at that point. Rvi might have some examples. Happy Mondays the only band I can think of with a crack classic.

    elton discog was made off crack so you have all of that as one example