The last 2 tracks sounds like some wannabe Rockwilder beats to me
Good observation.
It’s a man trying to keep up with a sound he doesn’t truly understand
first one sounds like a RZA beat tbh lol
tell me 3 great Timbo songs from 2009-2012 (and I'm sure they all from Shock Value II)
Off that
Venus vs mars
Say something
But I don't know any outside of that lol
this man was really throwing s*** at the wall
linkin park sample fake timbo impression going into a soul 2 soul sample with a mid rap verse. i will say. i have heard nothing like this before. probably for good reason.
this album actually not that bad, its all over the place but its just when teddy tries to lean into rapping instead of singing he suddenly becomes awful
Trash or proto opium lmao
party and bullshit sounds like the type of song late 10s tyler the creator would reference as a massive source of inspiration when noone was f***ing with it back when he was lil and zoomers online would be like nah this is hot its so ahead of its time
this man was really throwing s*** at the wall
linkin park sample fake timbo impression going into a soul 2 soul sample with a mid rap verse. i will say. i have heard nothing like this before. probably for good reason.
this album actually not that bad, its all over the place but its just when teddy tries to lean into rapping instead of singing he suddenly becomes awful
this is the equivalent of all the glam rock bands having to do a grunge album in the 90s so they could remain relevant
No wonder the motherfucker was so broke he had to work on fake MJ songs
This stuff is terrible
this man was really throwing s*** at the wall
linkin park sample fake timbo impression going into a soul 2 soul sample with a mid rap verse. i will say. i have heard nothing like this before. probably for good reason.
this album actually not that bad, its all over the place but its just when teddy tries to lean into rapping instead of singing he suddenly becomes awful
This is hilarious
party and bullshit sounds like the type of song late 10s tyler the creator would reference as a massive source of inspiration when noone was f***ing with it back when he was lil and zoomers online would be like nah this is hot its so ahead of its time
I'm so glad someone else notices this type of s***. Dog I love this culture
Nigga would reference some random ass BET uncut ass s*** just to be #eccentric but I f*** with Tyler lmaooo
this one of his biggest chunes
i was obsessed with shock value 1 and 2 lmao
I'm so glad someone else notices this type of s***. Dog I love this culture
Nigga would reference some random ass BET uncut ass s*** just to be #eccentric but I f*** with Tyler lmaooo
Nigga said the Simpsons Lisa song Mike ain't even sing was his favorite Michael Jackson song nigga f*** you
No wonder the motherfucker was so broke he had to work on fake MJ songs
This stuff is terrible
😭😭😭😭
Nigga said the Simpsons Lisa song Mike ain't even sing was his favorite Michael Jackson song nigga f*** you
Tbf Mike did write and originally sing it and it’s an absolute banger
The last 2 tracks sounds like some wannabe Rockwilder beats to me
(This prolly why Method Man sounds so good on that song cause he prolly thought it was a Rockwidler beat.)
you know what.
I didn't get @op point and did highkey just look at this as some hating niggas for tryna be different until this post.
I get it.
Teddy RILEY (fuck is this TR s***) shoulda just kept on being himself woulda probably saw more success in the 00s. He already had his own sound.
Production ages over years but it shouldn’t become offensive on the ear like the production here lol. P, timbo and swizz production from this exact era hasn’t aged to the point where it’s nearly unlistenable like the songs in op
idk man some of these swizz beats that DMX saved kinda doo doo butter in hindsight
Nigga said the Simpsons Lisa song Mike ain't even sing was his favorite Michael Jackson song nigga f*** you
you can't put that on him tbh, every 90s kid (including me) thought that was MJ because Kipp Lennon literally was hired to sing just like MJ because labels wouldnt allow MJ himself to do it.
idk man some of these swizz beats that DMX saved kinda doo doo butter in hindsight
yeah sonically his production aged like ass, i feel like the rhythmic patterns his beats had and how he would work hook/melodic ideas into them is what made them stand out and still hold up...on some level.
more about the bounce than the quality of the sounds being used when it comes to swizz imo
I think the amount of hate is proportional, that first track has 2.3k views
Scarface and Snoop sound good on that second beat (as expected), the Figadoh s*** reminds me of the beat on Shyne Bad Boyz
I like that the logo in the background of that Sisqo song looks like Dean Blunt Zushi
In summary OP is WRONG!!! these tracks are nothing to write home about but Teddy Riley is a legend and never gets enough love online in 2026
The Zushi logo is straight up just the Dru Hill logo
The Zushi logo is straight up just the Dru Hill logo
Its a good thing he a part of dru hil lol
I think the amount of hate is proportional, that first track has 2.3k views
Scarface and Snoop sound good on that second beat (as expected), the Figadoh s*** reminds me of the beat on Shyne Bad Boyz
I like that the logo in the background of that Sisqo song looks like Dean Blunt Zushi
In summary OP is WRONG!!! these tracks are nothing to write home about but Teddy Riley is a legend and never gets enough love online in 2026
the disrespect to compare that s*** to Bad Boyz
mfers will d***ride anyone cas they got legend status. we aint gotta act like any of that s*** in op is good to know teddy at his best is one of the best.
why did we give this man a pass putting that car horn in the beat

beat is fine besides that s***
party and bullshit sounds like the type of song late 10s tyler the creator would reference as a massive source of inspiration when noone was f***ing with it back when he was lil and zoomers online would be like nah this is hot its so ahead of its time
thats how that whole stanbase operates lol
party n bullshit sounds like that one timbo/magoo song
the disrespect to compare that s*** to Bad Boyz
mfers will d***ride anyone cas they got legend status. we aint gotta act like any of that s*** in op is good to know teddy at his best is one of the best.
I didn’t say one good thing about the songs except Scarface and Snoop sound good (like they do on most beats lol)
They copied the sample idea from Bad Boyz, is it disrespectful to Ye to say that Logic made a song that copied him
Simmer down