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  • sfsorrow

    the thing is the majority of current taylor fans are not consuming art they're consuming product. it doesn't even matter what the songs sounds like anymore or what their artistic value is. it's all about streams, visibility, aesthetic, being apart of something etc. they live vicariously through her in some weird power fantasy. it's why you have people posting "she did 1 gabillion streams first day KTT LOST" as if that means f***ing anything to people who actually LIKE music

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    SLOP BRAND PRODUCT BRAND SLOP PRODUCT

  • ANTI

    SLOP BRAND PRODUCT BRAND SLOP PRODUCT

    Slop means low effort/low quality content with little to no actual substance. Hope that helps bud

  • Oct 4, 2025
    hellhathnofurries

    Swiftys really don’t understand they are only hurting themselves by endorsing this s***. Until the slop is refused the slop will continue to be dished out

    I’m not joking when I say her next album will be AI

    At least Kanye fans stopped listening and praising when he did this s***

  • Oct 4, 2025
    ANTI

    SLOP BRAND PRODUCT BRAND SLOP PRODUCT

    If you’re enjoying the album that is all that matters

  • Oct 4, 2025
    EchiTwigs

    ME! exists

    Its better than eldest daughter

  • Ralph Cifaretto

    The female version of THRILLER.

    Not even joking....

    Powerful

  • EchiTwigs đŸ„
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    Oct 4, 2025
    John Mauve

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  • relapsed bisexual

    This one in particular is bizarre cus the censored version is much better and makes more sense

    “Cus my checks bigger”

    She don't wanna be seen as a square so she gotta swear

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    Oct 4, 2025

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    John Mauve

    that's true but there's def a subset of music dorks who still rate Taylor very highly which is what confuses me

    Somebody put it very plainly in a way I agree with it:

    “No, Taylor is not one of the greatest songwriters of all-time, you’re just simple! You’re simple and there’s nothing wrong with that. But if you genuinely believe she’s one of the greatest writers ever, read a book”

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    Taylor knew to keep Oklou’s name out of her f***in mouth

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    Also, someone pointed out that the sociology around Taylor Swift in the 2020s is more interesting than the art she produces in the 2020s, and I agree with that as well

    Her music is about as basic as it can get, but the way her cult-like fanbase is in such intense adoration of her is truly a fascinating phenomenon to witness in real time

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    Oct 4, 2025
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    ANTI

    Another KTT2 loss

    they’re in their little bubble lol

  • EchiTwigs đŸ„
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    Oct 4, 2025
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    sfsorrow

    I mean yes because it's really bad her writing is worse than ever and this production is insanely uninspired, especially from max of all people

    Heavily disagree when it starts out with 3 bops from out the gate Feel like people just set insanely high expectations and are disappointed it's not what they wanted or/and are just piling on the hate because it's the cool thing to do.

  • John Mauve đŸș
    Oct 4, 2025
    TheFader

    Somebody put it very plainly in a way I agree with it:

    “No, Taylor is not one of the greatest songwriters of all-time, you’re just simple! You’re simple and there’s nothing wrong with that. But if you genuinely believe she’s one of the greatest writers ever, read a book”

    she's better than Bob Dylan, Marvin Gaye and Joni Mitchell combined

  • Oct 4, 2025
    halleys comet

    they’re in their little bubble lol

    Taylor fans are in a bubble as well, it’s just a gigantic ass bubble

  • Oct 4, 2025
    Ralph Cifaretto

    The female version of THRILLER.

    Not even joking....

    Yes tf you are

  • Oct 4, 2025

    It’s worse have art that is shallow bland and evokes nothing than it is to be bad.

  • Oct 4, 2025
    scHoolboy Oward

    wait this b**** really thinks she’s writing shakespeare level s***e😭

    https://twitter.com/raynefq/status/1974228218925236736

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    EchiTwigs

    Heavily disagree when it starts out with 3 bops from out the gate Feel like people just set insanely high expectations and are disappointed it's not what they wanted or/and are just piling on the hate because it's the cool thing to do.

    Taylor’s music isn’t offensively mediocre in a vacuum

    It’s the almost Christ-like pedestal she gets put on by her audience that makes outsiders put her work under a magnifying glass, expecting genius-level artistry and musicality and authorship, and ultimately walking away feeling like her art does not live up to the appraisal it receives

    To equate it to a field that is more objectively judged, it would be like if a player in the NBA who was averaging 20 PPG won the MVP award year after year, and his fans kept talking about him like he was one of the best players of all-time. 20 PPG is decent, but in today’s NBA that wouldn’t even make the Top 35 in scoring.

    I don’t think anyone thinks that Taylor Swift is the worst musician of all time who’s never released a single good song ever. It’s just that for the amount of praise and awards and acclaim that she receives, it does not correlate to the talent that is on display within her bodies of work. It’s just puzzling.

  • Magenta 💞
    Oct 4, 2025

    I have opinions

  • EchiTwigs đŸ„
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    Oct 4, 2025
    TheFader

    Taylor’s music isn’t offensively mediocre in a vacuum

    It’s the almost Christ-like pedestal she gets put on by her audience that makes outsiders put her work under a magnifying glass, expecting genius-level artistry and musicality and authorship, and ultimately walking away feeling like her art does not live up to the appraisal it receives

    To equate it to a field that is more objectively judged, it would be like if a player in the NBA who was averaging 20 PPG won the MVP award year after year, and his fans kept talking about him like he was one of the best players of all-time. 20 PPG is decent, but in today’s NBA that wouldn’t even make the Top 35 in scoring.

    I don’t think anyone thinks that Taylor Swift is the worst musician of all time who’s never released a single good song ever. It’s just that for the amount of praise and awards and acclaim that she receives, it does not correlate to the talent that is on display within her bodies of work. It’s just puzzling.

    well ya i mean she's one of the biggest artist in the world she's bound to be hold on that pedestal and have a crazy following. What artist on that level doesn't have that same issue? Clearly her songwriting does have prowess to it if she's reached that status. U not agreeing is fine but I don't think it warrants the constant hatred towards her & her music like I keep seeing.

    Mind u she's 12 albums deep into her career and possibly more to come so there's bound to be flubs along the way.

  • Oct 4, 2025
    halleys comet
    https://twitter.com/chartdata/status/1974477780021555467

    like how lol

    levels to this music game. . The Fate of Ophelia

  • Oct 4, 2025
    Ralph Cifaretto

    The female version of THRILLER.

    Not even joking....

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