Yeah I'm not trying to troll, and clearly there are a ton of people that are into Taylor for the music (I was trying to get a signed CD here earlier), but it's very clear that a large portion of her fanbase is not into the music the way normal people are "into" music.

Not trying to be a man who's "into" art trying to disregard young women's passions or whatever, it's just the way it is. When she puts out her movie, there's gonna be a bunch of people who are gonna be into it and trying to glean information from it about her personal life - all while ignoring the full-on original film she made lol.

And yeah it's that way to a certain degree for a lot of artists' fandoms, but I think it's the most obvious and most clear with Taylor's - in part because she probably has the biggest but it's also in part because, honestly, that's what she wants.

All this is why I loved Folklore and Evermore so much - it wasn't written from first-person and it forced people to reckon with the music head-on. She didn't have a public spotlight, she wasn't fiending for attention in the media, it wasn't about her as a person; it was about what she created and the emotions she was trying to convey. Her fans couldn't spin those albums as easily as they normally would.

I'm really excited for her to come out swinging like this after middling albums to me (Midnights/TTPD), but I'm nervous about this album suffering from "the narratives" fans will make about it that have very little to do with the music or songwriting itself. Or, worse, Taylor leans into those narratives to appease the people that are looking for just that.

I wouldn't normally type this much but I like you as a poster, provider lol.

We already knew this from the lyrics that leaked

Kanye = Beyonce

Drake = Taylor

Makes far more sense.

Where's the hype

Leaks soon

Absolutely yes.

Was gonna reply to a post that she’s more like Drake than Kanye especially post 2015

Exactly.

I mean I was more than half joking lol. It is a bit quiet. But I think majority of people who would normally listen to a Taylor Swift album knows it's coming out and will be tuning in once it does. Plus there's been rumblings about a huge post-release promo run (so far a film in theaters, and a late night tv appearance) so perhaps it's by design.

But it is a bit quiet.

not mad at this

glad i have a minute by minute breakdown of my slop release

Quiet because it’s just music.

Drake wishes

You somebody that you just gotta say "you right, Jim" to. Lol

lol I have my gimmicks.

HITLOR KNOWS SHE HAS A SMASH !!!!!!!

Did this finally leak

If that's a lyric...

What was her last hit? Shake it off? Or the I’m the bad guy it’s me song

Don't answer that!

so hard to gauge her hits because of her vast, loyal fanbase makes everything seem like a hit during the streaming era statistically

Her last huge inescapable hit was probably Bad Blood.

But her last hit song I’d say was Cruel Summer, which went extremely viral online four years-post release