He didn’t need buffs

Played Steve for 3 games and nah, I do not like him

neither do i tbh

Steve got crazy dumb combos

Steve is too complicated, there’s so many systems going at once. Doesn’t fit at all

Steve is very fun. Haven’t fully grasped the whole block building yet, but he’s a really neat trap character. Recovering against him is going to be very difficult for a good amount of the cast.

I'm howling at Sonic and Ness being buffed. It's like no one at Nintendo has watched a single online tournament. Those characters are high tier offline too.

I f*** with Steve, his combos are stupid good and I respect that. Too many characters in this game where nothing really works in a coherent way and you're left fishing for a hard read.

His up smash and side B are so obnoxious to deal with. Might just be me but his tether grab is really finnicky and unintuitive.

Up tilt was nonexistent and up air + up smash straight up didn’t work

As a Mess main, I’m ecstatic

So? He was already a high tier character. Why is Nintendo buffing characters that are already good?

Even already good characters should have kits that work

Although dash attack is a buff , not a fix . That was unneeded

Sonic actually having boxing tools will promote healthier playstyle from his mains

No Byleth buffs

I've been playing a lot of Ness offline lately just for the hell of it, he's so much fun to f*** around with. Dash attack has dumb launch distance now.

Seriously. I'm about to drop the game. F*** that

Steve isn’t very fun to play with imo.

Felt the same with Min Min too.

Steve is awful, I've never seen a character with this much incentive to camp before.

Another character that Pikachu beats, nonsense.

Can we get a DLC character that beats Pikachu?

0/8 so far including Plant

Dabuz with Steve, 6 stocks a random Bowser in tournaments.

Next round, struggles with a random Pikachu

Dabuz even did the block off stage edgegaurd strat and Pikachu just gets around it like nothing even happened.

Pikachu is the only character that has been good in every smash game, why him of all choices?

steve is fun as f***, took some getting used to

Nintendo gives no s***s about the competitive scene and will give these horribly timed buffs and nerfs while being tone deaf. They might as well just add Steve and ignore the cast so it doesn’t seem like they are listening.

Least with Capcom back in SF4 days saw the pros playing and knew what needed to be nerfed.

Its because they quit trying.

This is just for nintendo not anyone that he actually wanted. So hes just throwing bullshit in there.

As much as i had high hopes when new characters were announced im sure pack 2 will be full of absolute s***

Min Min wasn't fun for me because her hitboxes sucked ass. Nothing lands consistently and I never got any mileage out of her combo game. Everything was very isolated and read based.

In contrast, I've been getting into using Diddy lately because he's fast, fluid, has generous hitboxes and everything in his kit works well together. His recovery and range are negatives, but overall he's a very good character.