beast444

6y

do you think they should take streaming away or limit streaming? like say you can stream the singles, but you have to buy the full album? tbh I think since we have streaming, it would be insanely hard if not impossible to see if there would be any benefits to taking it away and going back to how it was before the streaming era (before 2015 basically)

DEL_245

6y

if it paid better sure

AP3

6y

I don’t think they can go back, once they granted full access. People aren’t used to having things taken away from them and being ok with it. You think so?

beast444

6y

Me neither, but IDK. Let's say artists with well established fanbases take their music off of streaming, or at least don't put their next album out on streaming services. Artists like Adele and Beyonce have already done this and had huge first week numbers and ended up with the best selling albums of 2015 and 2016. I counted Bey, even though Lemonade was on Tidal, close enough. I think the older artists could do well without the streaming cuz they have fan bases that will always buy their music. Mariah, Janet, Usher, Taylor (always has fans buy, not just stream), Beyonce, Jay Z, Adele will all be good. A lot of these artists like Usher, Bey, Taylor, and Adele went gold or platinum in a week from just pure sales, but that was before streaming and they were in their primes. They will continue to sell well cuz they have huge fanbases that cross generations and support their music and give them a top 5 debut no matter what. They're just those artists.

The newer and younger artists like Breezy, Rihanna (if she releases her next album), Future, Ariana, Billie Eilish, Lizzo, maybe even Bieber, they'd struggle, or their fans would have to adapt so their fave can go #1. Even Drake might struggle. Scorpion might be 4x platinum and sold over 700k album equivalents in the first week, but only 100k of that first week was pure sales and by the end of 2018 the album only sold 300k in pure sales. Drake might do well, but Views sold over 800k in the first week pure sales, so a almost 700k drop off isn't necessarily good (Views and Scorpion were both released during the streaming era btw).

IDK if this would work, but if an artist has a dedicated enough fan base, they'd be fine. I think the people and artists would be mad, especially those dependant upon streaming, but in the end after 2 or 3 years everything would balance itself out and people would be willing to buy again, cuz there'd be no other way (unless the artists still upload albums on YouTube, which does count towards streaming and sales now).

EDIT: Artists would also have to make good albums and not be able to pull some bs like putting out a 25 or 40 song album to "cheat the system" (10 songs played = 1 album listen, so now artists stack loads of songs on albums or put the big singles at the end to benefit from streaming/album equivalents instead of just making a good cohesive album that people will listen to from start to finish).

EDIT 2: I think one thing they could do is separate streaming charts from the Hot 100 and BB 200 to keep the integrity of the buying for the official charts and still reward and show how artists more dependent on streaming are doing. Just a thought.

beast444

6y

Me neither, but IDK. Let's say artists with well established fanbases take their music off of streaming, or at least don't put their next album out on streaming services. Artists like Adele and Beyonce have already done this and had huge first week numbers and ended up with the best selling albums of 2015 and 2016. I counted Bey, even though Lemonade was on Tidal, close enough. I think the older artists could do well without the streaming cuz they have fan bases that will always buy their music. Mariah, Janet, Usher, Taylor (always has fans buy, not just stream), Beyonce, Jay Z, Adele will all be good. A lot of these artists like Usher, Bey, Taylor, and Adele went gold or platinum in a week from just pure sales, but that was before streaming and they were in their primes. They will continue to sell well cuz they have huge fanbases that cross generations and support their music and give them a top 5 debut no matter what. They're just those artists.

The newer and younger artists like Breezy, Rihanna (if she releases her next album), Future, Ariana, Billie Eilish, Lizzo, maybe even Bieber, they'd struggle, or their fans would have to adapt so their fave can go #1. Even Drake might struggle. Scorpion might be 4x platinum and sold over 700k album equivalents in the first week, but only 100k of that first week was pure sales and by the end of 2018 the album only sold 300k in pure sales. Drake might do well, but Views sold over 800k in the first week pure sales, so a almost 700k drop off isn't necessarily good (Views and Scorpion were both released during the streaming era btw).

IDK if this would work, but if an artist has a dedicated enough fan base, they'd be fine. I think the people and artists would be mad, especially those dependant upon streaming, but in the end after 2 or 3 years everything would balance itself out and people would be willing to buy again, cuz there'd be no other way (unless the artists still upload albums on YouTube, which does count towards streaming and sales now).

EDIT: Artists would also have to make good albums and not be able to pull some bs like putting out a 25 or 40 song album to "cheat the system" (10 songs played = 1 album listen, so now artists stack loads of songs on albums or put the big singles at the end to benefit from streaming/album equivalents instead of just making a good cohesive album that people will listen to from start to finish).

EDIT 2: I think one thing they could do is separate streaming charts from the Hot 100 and BB 200 to keep the integrity of the buying for the official charts and still reward and show how artists more dependent on streaming are doing. Just a thought.

AP3

6y

That theory only works established artist. It could work but in the grand scheme of things music will still suffer in the long run. The problem isn’t with artist that made their mark. It’s artist trying to establish themselves with a solid fanbase. New stars is what keeps music going because those are the ones that connects with a younger artist.