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  • This is Bow 🏹
    Aug 26, 2022

    Instant classic album

    Thank you Steve

  • Aug 26, 2022
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    the album gets better with every listen

    ppl criticizing the songwriting on this album and brent's aren't really keyed in like that

  • Aug 26, 2022

    great album

  • Aug 28, 2022

    One of my AOTYs easily

  • Aug 28, 2022
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    Rainbow Road

    the album gets better with every listen

    ppl criticizing the songwriting on this album and brent's aren't really keyed in like that

    what you mean by that though

    both them projects songwriting lacks depth and can be quite immature imo, i still like both regardless

    If you around that age or younger then sure you can vibe and relate to it but if you older it does sound abit cringe; particularly some lyrics on static and cody freestyle

    But it’s fine he will improve with age

  • Aug 28, 2022
    trash can

    what you mean by that though

    both them projects songwriting lacks depth and can be quite immature imo, i still like both regardless

    If you around that age or younger then sure you can vibe and relate to it but if you older it does sound abit cringe; particularly some lyrics on static and cody freestyle

    But it’s fine he will improve with age

    I agree with this heavily.

  • Aug 28, 2022
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    trash can

    what you mean by that though

    both them projects songwriting lacks depth and can be quite immature imo, i still like both regardless

    If you around that age or younger then sure you can vibe and relate to it but if you older it does sound abit cringe; particularly some lyrics on static and cody freestyle

    But it’s fine he will improve with age

    Huh? Let's put aside the fact that the lyrics and concepts of the songs/album are cohesive and great - songwriting is more than just the topics touched upon in songs. Structure, Melody, etc, are all amazing and far beyond his years.

  • Aug 28, 2022
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    Tomata Du Plenty

    Huh? Let's put aside the fact that the lyrics and concepts of the songs/album are cohesive and great - songwriting is more than just the topics touched upon in songs. Structure, Melody, etc, are all amazing and far beyond his years.

    im aware, and i never disputed that the actual music, as in melody, structure, instrumentation etc. was bad. in fact they are all great

    but to me great songwriting is how all of those things mesh together with lyrics and concepts and to me he’s way behind in that department; and that’s what I mean when I say the songwriting lacks depth

    Again If you think otherwise that’s fine as it’s ultimately personal how to relate to the lyrical content, but to me his writing ability sticks out like sore thumb compared to his melodic/instrumental talents

  • Aug 28, 2022
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    trash can

    im aware, and i never disputed that the actual music, as in melody, structure, instrumentation etc. was bad. in fact they are all great

    but to me great songwriting is how all of those things mesh together with lyrics and concepts and to me he’s way behind in that department; and that’s what I mean when I say the songwriting lacks depth

    Again If you think otherwise that’s fine as it’s ultimately personal how to relate to the lyrical content, but to me his writing ability sticks out like sore thumb compared to his melodic/instrumental talents

    What’s your example of good song writing in modern R&B

  • Aug 28, 2022
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    NEED vinyl. This album has more spins than anything else for me this year.

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    only liked sunshine and helmet

    at least it’s not too musically offensive…

    but the way he sings makes him very hatable

    mercury was sooo bad and i don’t like the bad habit outro especially when he starts singing about biscuits and gravy

  • Aug 28, 2022
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    rico

    What’s your example of good song writing in modern R&B

    it’s a hard question because the genre has shifted so much in the last decade

    what frank did with CO and Blonde are the best recent examples I can think of but that’s been 10 and 6 years respectively

    tbh I actually don’t think good songwriting is THAT important in modern rnb happening atm; it’s more about a good vibe and accessibility right now; and that’s fine with me if the music is good

  • Aug 28, 2022
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    6geW

    only liked sunshine and helmet

    at least it’s not too musically offensive…

    but the way he sings makes him very hatable

    mercury was sooo bad and i don’t like the bad habit outro especially when he starts singing about biscuits and gravy

    At least you enjoyed the best song on the album (helmet)

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    trash can

    it’s a hard question because the genre has shifted so much in the last decade

    what frank did with CO and Blonde are the best recent examples I can think of but that’s been 10 and 6 years respectively

    tbh I actually don’t think good songwriting is THAT important in modern rnb happening atm; it’s more about a good vibe and accessibility right now; and that’s fine with me if the music is good

    I hear you. What about SZA?

  • Aug 28, 2022
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    trash can

    what you mean by that though

    both them projects songwriting lacks depth and can be quite immature imo, i still like both regardless

    If you around that age or younger then sure you can vibe and relate to it but if you older it does sound abit cringe; particularly some lyrics on static and cody freestyle

    But it’s fine he will improve with age

    because immaturity is the new maturity, as far as what’s connecting with audiences

    plus the structures of the songs are phenomenal

  • Aug 28, 2022
    6geW

    only liked sunshine and helmet

    at least it’s not too musically offensive…

    but the way he sings makes him very hatable

    mercury was sooo bad and i don’t like the bad habit outro especially when he starts singing about biscuits and gravy

    This take is ban worthy tbh

  • Aug 28, 2022
    Cherrywine

    At least you enjoyed the best song on the album (helmet)

    Helmet took some time to grow on me tbh but once I went out to the West Coast and listened to it, def became a hit for me

  • Aug 28, 2022
    sipsome

    NEED vinyl. This album has more spins than anything else for me this year.

    I really hope it’s coming soon

  • Aug 28, 2022
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    6geW

    only liked sunshine and helmet

    at least it’s not too musically offensive…

    but the way he sings makes him very hatable

    mercury was sooo bad and i don’t like the bad habit outro especially when he starts singing about biscuits and gravy

    two best songs on the album for me (sunshine probably my SOTY)

    I urge you to listen again or familiarize yourself with bossa nova when it comes to mercury because that song is amazing

  • Aug 28, 2022
    Rainbow Road

    two best songs on the album for me (sunshine probably my SOTY)

    I urge you to listen again or familiarize yourself with bossa nova when it comes to mercury because that song is amazing

    Facts like how tf can you dislike Mercury

  • Aug 28, 2022
    Rainbow Road

    because immaturity is the new maturity, as far as what’s connecting with audiences

    plus the structures of the songs are phenomenal

    im not sure what that even means but i think i get your point;

    I guess cos younger people (teens to early 20s) are the ones mostly consuming so it’s more important to connect to them lyrically; but to the detriment of depth

    same way emo is predominately consumed by teens..I don’t think targeting teens and being successful makes it mature doe

    But yeah I agree the structures are real step up from his demos/apollo

  • mr get dough 🤩
    Aug 28, 2022
    6geW

    only liked sunshine and helmet

    at least it’s not too musically offensive…

    but the way he sings makes him very hatable

    mercury was sooo bad and i don’t like the bad habit outro especially when he starts singing about biscuits and gravy

    ok dweeb

  • Aug 28, 2022
    rico

    I hear you. What about SZA?

    Yh Ctrl was defo a step in the right direction actually, thats another good example but she ain’t dropped in a while aswell

    Also ANTI and Lemonade (even though Rihanna and Beyonce probs didn’t write most of it) are also good examples actually

  • eye contact 📿
    OP
    Aug 28, 2022

    His writing reminds me of Pharrell on NERD’s early stuff

  • Aug 28, 2022

    Sunshine

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