What country you live in?

I read the Communist manifesto so a lot of this post is familiar to me and I get what is being said. But the last sentence of first paragraph "Socialism will eliminate all racism and sexism" seems like a massive reach

Yeah, okay lol

What's your occupation?

Then discuss it, if you have the time. I'm honestly very interested.

Well what do you want to tackle? I noticed you had an issue with the idea put forth that capitalism cannot reform and it instead must be collapsed or defeated by an outside force

I know what socialism is, my issue is that it is basically fan-fiction. Capitalism, regardless of all it's flaws is practical, and my approach to fixing it is actually capable of being implemented.

Unlike, magically make everybody work towards a common goal that is sepf sustsining which runs contrary to every human instinct

Read it, it's fanfiction.

It’s economic theory

I'm Nigerian.

It's impractical economic theory. A thought experiment with no grounding in reality.

Mass movements are the fastest way to tear down s***ty ideas that members of the working class can hold. They say strikes are the classroom of the working class. Imagine going through a revolution made up of all different kinds of people, you'll very quickly realise that the ruling class is your enemy, not workers of different races or sex.

Additionally, racism and sexism as we know them stem from class society. The concepts of thinking darker skin is inferior or women are the weaker s***did not exist in several pre-class and collective societies. Those ideas were developed for reasons such as justifying slavery, and enforcing the nuclear family wherein women do free labour to raise the next generation of workers.

I am a builder, what about you?

You could not have read any Marx in your life and still have said this

I'm just curious to hear how socialist ideals can be implemented in our current context.

“Marxist economics have nonmaterial grounding” is definitive proof that this person has no idea what they’re talking about

Marxist economics and dialectical a***ysis are literally some of the most influential political-economic concepts in the modern day

Oh, nice. I'm a health worker.

I was going for a "aha, your job won't exist without capitalism" burn but that clearly won't work in your case.

Isn't one of the main critiques of Marxism that it hasn't (some would say cannot) been successfully implemented?

The socialist, and subsequently communist ideal stems from one that is based on an account for every humans individualistic desires and a resulting collective goal to maintain a system where all humans can exercise such freedoms to their own degree.

At the fundamental level, this means that all humans must own the entire product of their labor (economics and systems of production provide the basis for the structure and function of a society)

Obviously restrictions to this concept materially exist in regards to a responsibility every human inherently has to maintain and protect the system they voluntarily participate in. Thus an organization that encourages, protects, and maintains a system of voluntary, egalitarian, sustainable, and productive labor is what is required

This is a very rudimentary and unprincipled statement on the psychological basis of communist organization, and exactly what socialist ideals are.

Understanding these ideals, we must now see how the capitalist ideal differs, how it’s system is contradictory to the existent prevailing user of human ideals, and what must be done

It already occurred in Russia in 1917. The new form of government - worker's democracy - delivered "Peace, Land and Bread". Russia withdrew from the bloody imperial World War, peasants were given land and workers had nationalised industry and took control of production by 1918.
There are many reasons it failed and degenerated into state capitalism. For one, Russia was 80 years of development behind the rest of Europe, had just suffered huge losses in WW1, and then would have to suffer through the Spanish flu and other outbreaks, civil war with the remnants of their own ruling class, and invasion by US, Britain, Japan and France, who opposed the workers revolution. With the German revolution of 1918-19 getting so close but eventually failing to succeed, Russia was completely isolated from the rest of the developed world. It could not survive on it's own.

Lots of the things above were unavoidable, but there were obviously some bad decisions that we also need to study and learn from.

Hell if the German revolution had just succeeded there's genuinely a decent chance that we'd all be living under global socialism right now.

Marxism itself isn’t something that is “implemented.” It’s a method of a***ysis that materially a***yzes the world in a dialectical manner

Socialism and communism are simply a Marxist application of theory in the economic world. And so far I don’t think his predictions and observations have been wrong in regards to the vast majority of his theory

this brother is a nigerian health worker i am optimistic that we can win him to the side of reason

There have been multiple extremely successful socialist projects achieved across countries like the USSR, Vietnam, China, Burkina Faso, Cuba, even places like Libya

And sure, maybe some collapsed and some aren’t the material ideal or moral ideal. But that isn’t the point. Socialism as a whole is still in its infancy, and understanding the conditions every part of the world must go through to move forward is still something we’re figuring out

Ehh, I'm going to have to disagree with this. Racism and sexism are beliefs held by individuals. In the current system, not everyone in the ruling class is racist/sexist. Sure, it may not be as widespread in the socialist system you envision. But I think it'll still exist and be present. Socialism won't magically remove it from society

And I don't think women were truly seen as equal, even before capitalism. You got religious texts blaming the damnation of humanity on a woman choosing to eat an apple and convincing a man to do the same. Unfortunately, they just always had things tougher

brother Americana and I would respectfully disagree on what constitutes a socialist project (I would unfortunately call projects like China 'state capitalist') but I'm sure we would both agree that we favour those projects listed over western capitalism