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  • Sep 30, 2022
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    The best thing about Frankito is I know he doesn’t say any of this s*** to Muslims irl because he knows he’ll get his ass beat

  • Sep 30, 2022
    Sepah

    The best thing about Frankito is I know he doesn’t say any of this s*** to Muslims irl because he knows he’ll get his ass beat

    Really goes for all the posters like him

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    Sep 30, 2022
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    Sepah

    The best thing about Frankito is I know he doesn’t say any of this s*** to Muslims irl because he knows he’ll get his ass beat

    Muslims are killing Persians who are fighting for their freedom so what’s your point

  • Sep 30, 2022
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    The Kemalists are itt

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    Gojira

    Muslims are killing Persians who are fighting for their freedom so what’s your point

    Throughout its history the Islamic republic has been supported by both religious and non religious people alike and vice versa. also there are more than just Persians in Iran, most of the current protestors are Kurds. Also trying to frame Muslims as oppressors in a country that’s 90% Muslim is hilarious, that’d be like saying the saudis are oppressed by Muslims

  • Sep 30, 2022
    americana

    The Kemalists are itt

    Kemalists Vs Qutbist Neocon Losers at 8PM EST October 2nd

  • Gojira 🦖
    Sep 30, 2022
    Sepah

    Throughout its history the Islamic republic has been supported by both religious and non religious people alike and vice versa. also there are more than just Persians in Iran, most of the current protestors are Kurds. Also trying to frame Muslims as oppressors in a country that’s 90% Muslim is hilarious, that’d be like saying the saudis are oppressed by Muslims

    Not just Kurds, there are protests all over the country. The people are tired of the old bearded men telling them how to live their lives or die. They aren’t Muslim by choice and this protest is enough evidence. You don’t scream “Death to the dictator” and “Islamic Regime be gone”

    And so they be Muslim, if they are, they don’t want a theocracy. They want secularism.

  • Sep 30, 2022
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    Womanpuncher69


    https://www.redspark.nu/en/peoples-war/cpi-maoist-activities-on-the-rise-in-telangana-state/

    news I hear about the Maoists in India is pretty much always good

  • Sep 30, 2022
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    Sepah

    news I hear about the Maoists in India is pretty much always good

    seems like India overextended themselves with operation Greenhunt and they’re on the rise again, still not at 2010 levels but i’m happy to see improvement. if their one beacon of light in the darkness of the future for me is the philippines and indian maoist taking advantage of the upcoming crises.

    The Brazilian maoist are on a rise as well right now

  • Sep 30, 2022
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    Womanpuncher69


    https://www.redspark.nu/en/peoples-war/cpi-maoist-activities-on-the-rise-in-telangana-state/

    do you have any opinion on the maoist parties that existed in Israel in the 70s-90s, particularly like Ma'avak?

  • Sep 30, 2022
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    krishna bound

    do you have any opinion on the maoist parties that existed in Israel in the 70s-90s, particularly like Ma'avak?

    this my first time hearing of em so i guess not lol.

  • Sep 30, 2022
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    krishna bound

    do you have any opinion on the maoist parties that existed in Israel in the 70s-90s, particularly like Ma'avak?

    Doesn’t matter if the Zionist is red he’s better off dead

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    Sepah

    Doesn’t matter if the Zionist is red he’s better off dead

    none of them were zionist, thats weird af assumption to make. all leftist parties in israel from the 70s to 90s of which had jewish members were either killed by the state or jailed trying to abolish the state to free palestine.

    edit: also like half of them weren't jews , and the ones who were actively cooperated with israel's enemies like egypt & syria to try to assist in israel losing wars

  • Sep 30, 2022
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    Womanpuncher69

    this my first time hearing of em so i guess not lol.

    its pretty interesting and a weird part of history. as i mentioned in the post above the israeli state basically killed all of them or put them in jail. reading about how the (actual) israeli left interfaced with arab leaders and surrounding parties is really interesting though. virtually all of the israeli left was started from anti-zionism even though the parties were largely mixed between jewish and arab members. The biggest socialist/communist organization split was because half of the party thought israel was just a regular capitalist society and thus needed to be treated as such under a socialist lens, while the other half (who became the maoist party) thought the israel-palestine conflict and colonial origins of the country were the real catalyst for communist mobilization.

  • Sep 30, 2022
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    krishna bound

    its pretty interesting and a weird part of history. as i mentioned in the post above the israeli state basically killed all of them or put them in jail. reading about how the (actual) israeli left interfaced with arab leaders and surrounding parties is really interesting though. virtually all of the israeli left was started from anti-zionism even though the parties were largely mixed between jewish and arab members. The biggest socialist/communist organization split was because half of the party thought israel was just a regular capitalist society and thus needed to be treated as such under a socialist lens, while the other half (who became the maoist party) thought the israel-palestine conflict and colonial origins of the country were the real catalyst for communist mobilization.

    Where are you getting this from? Most of the left wing Israeli parties I know about we’re still Zionist and even the ones that weren’t ultimately ended up betraying the Palestinian resistance they claimed to support by not even actually fighting with them

  • Sep 30, 2022
    Sepah

    Where are you getting this from? Most of the left wing Israeli parties I know about we’re still Zionist and even the ones that weren’t ultimately ended up betraying the Palestinian resistance they claimed to support by not even actually fighting with them

    The ones you know of now which are "Left" but still zionist are because nothing from the 70s-80s exists anymore because all their members were - as I said - literally killed, imprisoned, or exiled. Ones like Da'am , Maki, and similar are basically members who during evolutions of the party split from actual communist parties at one point and then over time lost meaning. Parties like Mapam who were "left" but radically pro zionist were created basically by the government at the time to honeypot people on the left because everyone was accused of being a syrian spy.

    Matzpen (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matzpen) was the general socialist/communist organization in Israel of which mainly split because of zionist (inc. Fence sitters) vs anti-zionist attitudes. Maoist orgs like Ma'avak literally stated their purpose was to liberate palestine alongside the rest of the colonial world. You can look up how many people from the anti-zionist splinter of Matzpen went to jail for assisting Syria against Israel, and how many literal palestinian (and other arab) forces were allied with the anti-zionist left in israel. Most of them are cross-linked either within this article or on connected pages. The thing that's important to understand which underlays this though is the organizations were an umbrella for anyone who considered themselves left or anti-zionist - israeli govt back then was even more authoritarian than now because they considered themselves at wartime and did not tolerate dissidence. This meant that people who thought more liberal "i still want a jewish state but i believe in indiginous rights" were forced essentially into the same political group as people who thought "zionism is the root of evil in the middle east and a cancer to the arab people". so you're going to get a ton of variety when you read about the 70s-80s israeli left because anyone the govt thought was "anti-zionist" was placed into it like a basket, and this was alongside actual leftists and also palestinian insurgents.

    i'm very obviously not israeli but understanding this part of history is still an integral part of understanding history in the ME one way or another. If you think the entire history of the left in Israel was zionist and anti-palestine (or betrayed palestinians after trusting them), you've been reading wayyyy too much biased material. Half of the history in the 70s of Israel was the Israeli government killing and imprisoning jews who tried to mobilize alongside palestinians to abolish the zionist government because the govt didn't tolerate any form of dissidence under wartime, and given the beginning spread of mass media, it was the first time many jews began to understand just how brutal and inhumane Israel and Zionism actually were. One reason this barely happens anymore is literally because throughout the 70s and 80s there were basically political purges in israel.

    Of course there is more nuance here as I mentioned. Even within communist factions (externally or internally), some leftist orgs wanted to simply erase the law of return and preserve "israel" conceptually but had it back to arabs/palestinians. Others wanted to destroy the state altogether, while others were quasi-arab nationalists.

    Since the wikipedia article isn't very good and is very ambigious, here are some articles for you:

    Israel's Forgotten Anti-Zionist Left (Note: this is from a pro-israel magazine so take it w/ a grain of salt)
    tabletmag.com/sections/community/articles/is-zionism-the-problem-matzpen

    The Forgotten History of the Jewish, Anti-Zionist Left (from the 30s-40s , so before what im talking about, but still interesting)
    inthesetimes.com/article/jewish-anti-zionism-israel-palestine-colonialism-annexation-apartheid

    You can also find some articles archived on a Matzpen site (matzpen.org/english/category/documents/page/5), which as you'll see the majority of are all about palestinian liberation, but just a random person owns this site and kept the historical , it's not actually connected to a political org. Of course, this site just has a bunch of random archived articles, so you'll see a big variety between articles in opinion and content because of the aforementioned thing I had said about who was grouped into what category and therefore who archived what.

    Interesting example though of forgotten history I mean:
    (1969) Jews & Arabs Demonstrate Against Occupation
    matzpen.org/english/1969-01-28/jews-arabs-demonstrate-against-occupation

    The murder in Rafah exposes the true face of the Parliament, of the Government, and of the Zionist regime in general.

    Keep in mind it was jews writing this above quote.

    If you have academic access, there's a lot of articles on this in JSTOR because yeah it is basically a forgotten subject (for good reason) within current political conscious outside of some few academic documentations.

  • Oct 1, 2022
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    slva ukrane

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    deadacc

    slva ukrane

    f*** is this

  • Oct 1, 2022
    spongebob

    f*** is this

    Democracy enjoyers

  • Oct 1, 2022

    Just found out flute players are called FLAUTISTS

  • Oct 1, 2022

    It's out

  • Oct 1, 2022
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    True Korea

  • Oct 1, 2022
    VA7a

    True Korea

    !https://youtu.be/IhglQyChv5M

    Incredible things are happening in the DPRK

  • Oct 1, 2022

    Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.