when you say japanese fascism what do you mean? just like imperial japanese ideology and ww2 japanese ultranationalism? they don't really have fascism in the same way the west did.

yeah exactly what would u say were the differences between the two then?

Well it’s just historical/contextual different. Japanese ultranationalism was completely distinct in terms of how it formed and also what it’s philosophy was. The philosophy of it was literally just “we are culturally superior to everyone else and have a divine right to conquer”. It wasn’t necessarily spurred by a wave of forebearer sociopolitical or philosophical movement or borne from a grey area between ideologies like in the west. In a way it was kind of a reaction to western colonialism and cultural reawakening ig but it’s not really connected in any other manner. That’s why it’s more just called ultranationalism or neo-monarchism as opposed to like, fascism. It was also a logical step from feudalism which carried on similar cultural facets, it being preceded by feudalism made a big diffetence
I would primarily recommend reading Mishima unironically as he details it pretty well esp. the anti-western/anti-colonial reactionist elements. Other than that there’s a book called “Japan’s Holy War” I’d recommend or look up translated works of Sakurai Makoto

Edit: easier way to explain this is it wasn’t rooted in intellectualism like western political movements tend to be

def super interesting to me every time i read it cuz ive always understood fascism the way it was outlined in blackshirts & reds to be the coalescence of leftist rhetoric and rightist policy to maintain capitalist decline, which is definitely a nihilist goal in and of itself but also the way you explain it is so much more at the same time.

Classic

Blackshirts & reds isn’t wrong or anything it just doesn’t go enough into the philosophical/intellectual background which spurred fascism as much as it does the economic implications

boss gets a dollar i get a dime, that’s why I browse ktt on company time

totally and ive always understood fascism from a base perspective so i always think its interesting reading about it from a superstructural one

They were trying to cook tf out of me in the pro wrestling thread for saying that women wrestlers should be paid well enough they don’t need to do onlyfans or modeling shoots as side gigs

Same s*** as female mma fighters. They lust after these women's bodies but when given some sort of access they shame the women it’s always funny

why is it always the "if people cared about women's sports then they'd get paid the same" people who are also the "this is about providing equal and fair opportunities in women sports that are being stolen by greedy transsexuals"

Nah it wasn’t even like that necessarily. They pulled the whole “why are you so puritanical you care about what women are doing with their bodies?? It’s empowering snd their choice” card. Like trying to say women (I.e the wrestler Chyna from the 90s) being exploited post-WWE was a personal choice and not blatant exploitation.

Every response in the thread was acting like women enjoy doing OF which is proven because they post sexy pics on IG so they’re clearly just doing it as a hobby and the issue isn’t that they’re being underpaid despite being booked to do crazy sexual s*** while being paid like half the pay of male undercarders

third worldism but for the patriarchy

"Some writers stress the "irrational" features of fascism. By doing
so, they overlook the rational politico-economic functions that fas-
cism performed. Much of politics is the rational manipulation of
irrational symbols. Certainly, this is true of fascist ideology, whose
emotive appeals have served a class-control function"

August: You won't believe it, Papa b u t . . . the young people dont pay much attention to these old slogans anymore . . . the class struggle is dying out.
Schneider: So, and what do you have then?
August: The Volk community.
Schneider: And thats a slogan?
August: No, it's an experience!
Schneider: My God, our class struggle, our strikes, they weren't an experience, eh? Socialism, the International, were they fantasies maybe?
August: They were necessary, b u t . . . they are historical experiences.
Schneider: So, and the future therefore will have your Volk commu- nity. Tell me how do you actually envision it? Poor, rich,
healthy, upper, lower, all this ceases with you, e h ? . . .
August: Look, Papa, upper, lower, poor, rich, that always exists. It is only the importance one places on that question that's decisive. To us life is not chopped up into working hours and furnished with price charts. Rather, we believe in human existence as a whole. None of us regards making money as the most impor- tant thing; we want to serve. The individual is a corpuscle in the bloodstream of his people.10

"The son's comments are revealing: "the class struggle is dying out." Papa's concern about the abuses of class power a n d class injus- tice is facilely dismissed as just a f r a m e of m i n d with no objective reality. It is even falsely equated with a crass concern for money. ("None of us regard making money as i m p o r t a n t " ) Presumably matters of wealth are to be left to those w h o have it. We have some- thing better, August is saying: a totalistic, monistic experience as a people, all of us, rich and poor, working together for some greater glory. Conveniently overlooked is h o w the "glorious sacrifices" are b o r n e by the p o o r for the benefit of the rich. The position enunciated in that play and in other Nazi propa- ganda does not reveal an indifference to class; quite the contrary, it represents a keen awareness of class interests, a well-engineered effort to mask and mute the strong class consciousness that existed among workers in Germany. In the crafty denial, we often find the hidden admission."

"Years ago, I used to say that fascism never succeeded in solving the irrational contradictions of capitalism. Today I am of the opinion that it did accomplish that goal—but only for the capitalists, not for the populace. Fascism never intended to offer a social solution that would serve the general populace, only a reactionary one, forcing all the burdens and losses onto the working public. Divested of its ide- ological and organizational paraphernalia, fascism is nothing more than a final solution to the class struggle, the totalistic submergence and exploitation of democratic forces for the benefit and profit of higher financial circles.
Fascism is a false revolution. It cultivates the appearance of pop-
ular politics and a revolutionary aura without offering a genuine rev- olutionary class content. It propagates a "New Order" while serving the same old moneyed interests. Its leaders are not guilty of confu- sion but of deception. That they work hard to mislead the public does not mean they themselves are misled."

Might be my fave chapter of blackshirts and reds

in essence socdems are fascists thanks for visiting this page

Socdems are worse they fascists they are - allah forgive me for uttering this word - liberals

Austria had Austrofascists vs Nazis battling each other until Hitler took over

Whenever they pull that card they realize they’re wrong. This isn’t exclusive to the s***trade but when faced with the reality of exploitation and oppression the coward will reject the truth when it’s right in front of them

british people have one joke and it’s “immigrant funny” “immigrant backwards”

got another question Marxist understanding is usually the function of Fascism is to prevent revolution/ weaken the communist when capitalism is in crisis do you agree with that since your post doesn’t necessarily contradict that understanding as well

hope Plankton doesn’t see this

the spectre of Plankton haunts the socialism thread

He's currently arguing that a CBS interview with the head of a NATO affiliated NGO is actually Russian Propaganda