What you guys think maybe any reading on dis? @cloud_rap @deadac @Womanpuncher69 @krishna_bound

the problem with third worldist is that they don’t know what the f*** they are talking about, my experience from the one i met in my old org was he had no idea what they talking about, all they’re info came from internet blogs and an old international that was was founded by Harvard kids, he brought a book from Althusser once and when i followed up on him how’s the book like 2 weeks later he said he never started reading it. like when i brought up the exact same point u did with Labour Aristocracy or even the fact that when the italian communist asked the vietnamese what’s the best way they can help em the Viets responded with saying revolution in their own country, they would either change the topic or acknowledge it and next time you meet up it’s like they completely forgot about it.

I hardly consider third worldist marxist’s cause they really don’t understand dialectic materialism. they are truly adventurist cause when i asked what we should do then they would tell me go to india and join the maoist and then i was like what about the mayo monkeys what should they do ? or they advocated that funding terrorist groups??? to cause distractions at the border i legit was about to ask if they were ed, another was that we should give bribe homeless people or very downtrodden people to fight for us and i was the bourgeoisie would always be able to out bribe us or whatever. they really viewed the working class as parasites it was disgusting and of course the motherfucker was driving around in a BMW i was disgusted

whether they are aware of it or not third worldists are feds

one of the worst thing that happened on twitter

Late 2019

the east asian ones
thats a hate crime for sure

its definitely interesting but the primary issue is that it needs to be framed around class a***ysis. similar to the settler-colonial framework, it obfuscates class a***ysis by partitioning society into mutually exclusive groups that are not divided upon class necessarily. i think even red nation has started to abandon the settler-colonial a***ysis.

it does the work of bourgeois ideology by splitting up the multinational working class along racialized lines, ignoring that the white working class has much to gain in unity with the multinational working class.

"The problem of white chauvinism must be sharply brought home to the white working class, white workers must see that it is contrary to their own interests. “It is not accidental then, that where the Negroes are most oppressed, the position of the whites is also most degraded. Facts unearthed and widely publicized, including the Report of the National Emergency Council to the late President Roosevelt, have thrown vivid light on the “paradise” of racial bigotry below the Mason-Dixon line. They expose the staggering price of “white supremacy” in terms of health, living and cultural standards of the great masses of southern whites. They show “white supremacy”–the shibboleth of Bourbon overlords–to be synonymous with the most outrageous poverty and misery of the southern white people. They show that “keeping the Negro down” spells for the entire South the nation’s lowest living standards.”31 Is the relative condition of the Negroes and whites in the South any different today than when Haywood published his book? The answer is quite obviously no!"
marxists.org/history/erol/ncm-8/epton-self.htm

heard haywood was a interesting read on the subject but havent read him yet
marxists.org/history/erol/1956-1960/haywood-negro.pdf

But the idea of the first world labor aristocracy isn't just about settler-colonialism, and doesn't exclude non-whites of exploiting the third world either

Feel like I missed an episode cuz why is every gay Lockheed Martin employee suddenly defending working for that company

but in the same way that white supremacy scarcely benefits the poor white person - in relation to where it massively benefits the white ruling class - third worldists are close to recognizing a reality but are led astray by simplistic a***ysis.

at the core of third worldism is a valid argument in which you can say that the material conditions of the first world make the argument vastly more difficult to promote communism, where even somebody like tragedy berlusconi - who is consistently exposed to the contradictions of capitalism and is not "dumb" by any means - will fight against communism. It is not sheer ignorance, but rather a calculated and intelligent understanding that the current status quo confidently has much to offer him while something like actually trying to practice communist internationalism has a much more dubious benefit.

the more a***ysis here should be that the first world working class has a lot MORE to gain through internationalism. wage depreciation through super exploitation in the third world makes it all the easier to oppress the working class within the first world. Third worldism makes the global settler-colonial ("imperialist") project the primary contradiction of the entire world, which has obvious revisionist implications. In this way it's the same thing as "white people are all the enemy because they benefit from white supremacy" as a political position.

TW: real life Ghoul

I'm not really that anticommunist anymore. I just don't like russia and China. Neither country is communisy nor advancing communism (sorry to burst your bubbles but china is only advancing one faction of the ccp). Cuba is cool tho.

Only commenting cause my name was mentioned

Well neither of them are communist anymore so... or are you talking about an earlier time

Nah people confuse my hawkish streak as an unapologetic anticommunist orientation but I've called for the Cuban embargo to end, advocated voting for left wing parties and support Labour unions

I don't like how russia and China run and find their systems worse than what my country has. So I'll support what makes me less likely to have to live like that

I'm assuming you'd describe yourself as a social democrat then

Yeah that's me

in what way is china not a social democracy ?

gay marriage is illegal in most NATO countries btw

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khomeini%27s_letter_to_Mikhail_Gorbachev

Gay rights are non negotiable for NATO*** 😈😏

*negotiable in Albania
negotiable in Bulgaria
negotiable in Croatia
negotiable in Czech Republic
negotiable in Estonia
negotiable in Greece
negotiable in Hungary
negotiable in Italy
negotiable in Latvia
negotiable in Lithuania
negotiable in Montenegro
negotiable in North Macedonia
negotiable in Poland
negotiable in Romania
negotiable in Slovakia
negotiable in Slovenia
negotiable in Turkey

GRAB GO WOW.
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