never read them

No, i don’t believe so. at most it might go into him a little

Also tag @abc , @spacecadet Is permad

these were contemporary/pre-marx/engels socialists basically, in the wave of utopian socialism that existed but largely predated what we now understand as the main historical development of it. other people included Leroux & Saint-Simon

basic idea was;

Leroux/Saint-Simon - (mainly Saint Simon) very basic similarities of general socialism but w/o critique of "capitalism" and more of a moral critique of government and industry. believed in meritocracy and was against aristocracy and believed his political formulation would enable meritocracy which was the most ethical system. marx called him a utopian. think of Leroux as being as early "left populist" basically. Leroux was more schizo and had a similar Hegelian background as marx but wrote about socialism from the perspective of religious/spiritual fulfillment and cared more about philosophical implications. they knew and cross-influenced each other but neither were influential

Fourier - you probably know him because he had that "phalanxes" and "organized communities" idea with weird cult styles of living and social interactions and tried building proto-utopian cult communities as a socialist experiment. Fourier was ironically more influential and was mentioned (not necessarily positively, but referentially) by some frankfurt school writers. influenced a lot of later writers esp. in regards to more anarchist leaning leftists (lol). basically didn't as much care about material conditions but rather cared very specifically about how material conditions enabled things like racism and sexism and cared about the ability of the community to enable the individual to experience pleasure or something. pretty sure he also coined the term "new world order". also really hated jews!

Proudhon - considered the first or among the first "anarchist". basically largely known for mutualism and hatred of anything which impeded on the individual, all the way down to group sovereignity. considered himself a socialist too since he believed in social ownership. had pretty all over the place views but similarly basically only cared about material conditions insofar as their effect on the individual and thus the moral implications of such. ironically ended up influencing a few right wing people down the line much like Sorel. also hated jews and women!

Engels Socials Utopian and Scientific go into it and is read more like history than theory which i think u prefer if u want to go more in-depth

i gotta read that again. haven't really absorbed it but the distinction makes like a baseline level of sense to me

Time to get drafted and die over an island 1000s of kms away

WHAT YOU GOT ON ASIA HUH

france24.com/en/africa/20220728-marcon-calls-russia-one-of-last-imperial-colonial-powers-in-benin-visit

French President Emmanuel Macron, on a visit to Benin Wednesday, branded Russia "one of the last imperial colonial powers" for its invasion of Ukraine.

Real

Doesn't France still have literal Colonies? Isn't it's colonial army division still deployed in Africa today? Seems like a wild statement coming from them of all people

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Guiana

Second largest region of france

Yeah that’s basically what he means. I’ve also heard him state very plainly as follows:

“ Socialism doesn’t happen because people get “better”. Socialism happens because people change their self-perception to align their self-interest with a greater interest. That’s class consciousness. It IS a self-interested movement. It is directed towards protecting one’s self from the pain the misery of life. It is an adaptive and evolutionary move. People are put into a position of friction where they either have to fight or cooperate. And they get in a situation where more of them come to the conclusion that cooperate makes more sense than fight. Then that builds new incentive structures that redefine what people are capable of - what really is a possibility in the world.”

11.6% inflation here in the Netherlands

Funniest nationalists are niggas who aren't even from that country. How you spend 5 hours defending manifest destiny whole time you live in Zurich Switzerland.

4chan users hyping Japan up bc muh homogenous society without immigrants, then saying they wanna move there

One of the authors is Turkish, the country that GLADIO wrecked the most

"Akin to the methods employed during the height of the Cold War, necessary direct interventions include prohibiting organizations from being part of the private and public sector if they are found to be aligned with anti-NATO regional and global powers. On the more severe side of the spectrum, replacement of governance to ensure continuity and amelioration in the quality of life of one’s citizens and the place for the country within the Atlantic alliance itself. "

Alp Sevimlisoy is the Turkish-British CEO of his flagship private asset management corporation and hedge fund headquartered in Istanbul, and a Millennium Fellow at the Atlantic Council headquartered in Washington, DC.

Right wing politics are primarily just projections