I'll jump off the Empire State before I watch a TPUSA video.

"Fidel the untold Story" is a great doc.

History of the Cuban revolution by Aviva Chomsky (yes that Chomsky) is also great read.

Lmao

Lenin's commentary on the slave vs the proletariat is the worst thing I've read yet.

What the f*** man.

turning point

The one where he talks about literacy rates?

My bad, I meant to say Engels not Lenin, one of those days.

It's in Principles of Communism.

Anyone here got any experience with PSL? They’re trying to set up a chapter in my city and contacted me about joining

So I’m watching this Soviet docu-series called Red Chapters. Only 3 episodes in but so far Stalin is garbage (obviously). From day one all he cared about was power. Solely responsible for Leninsm being a joke in the 21st century.

Trotsky was the boy until he pulled a Bernie Sanders and sided against Lenin for political interest.

I understand what you niggas mean by this s***’s never been tried out the right way but I think there’s a reason for that tbh.

Will report back with my conclusion when I finish the series. Link me to some more Soviet or any other Communist nation documentaries I’m trynna educate myself.

Honestly kinda starting to warm up to Lenin too I always saw him in the same light as Stalin cuz I just automatically attributed them to each other but I never knew how much beef they had.

It doesn’t seem like Lenin wanted Stalinism at all.

Can’t help but think that the famine still would’ve occurred but had Lenin been alive and healthy he probably would’ve handled it much better. No?

3 minutes

I don't see what your issue is.

"In what way do proletarians differ from slaves?
The slave is sold once and for all; the proletarian must sell himself daily and hourly."

The worker has to sell his labor, that means his time and energy, in the labor market, the slave has already been sold as a human being. The worker can choose who he wants to serve, the slave cannot.

"The individual slave, property of one master, is assured an existence, however miserable it may be, because of the master’s interest."

The slave-master cannot afford to let too many of his slaves die, the same way he wouldn't destroy any other property he has. In his logic, the slave is nothing more than an object to be bought and sold. Prolonging the slave's life is just preserving his investments.

"The individual proletarian, property as it were of the entire bourgeois class which buys his labor only when someone has need of it, has no secure existence. This existence is assured only to the class as a whole."

Unemployment benefits did not exist at this time and were only implemented because of the pressures of socialists. It does not matter for the bourgeois if a proletarian dies, as long as the proletarian is not employed in his production.

"The slave is outside competition; the proletarian is in it and experiences all its vagaries."

The proletarian is subject to the supply and demand of the labor market. If his skill is in high supply, but low demand, he will not earn much of a wage. The slave stands outside of a market, with the exception of the slave market, of which he can not derive any benefit, since the purchase of the slave can only benefit the slave-handlers, but not the slave himself, who is being forced into slavery.

"The slave counts as a thing, not as a member of society. Thus, the slave can have a better existence than the proletarian, while the proletarian belongs to a higher stage of social development and, himself, stands on a higher social level than the slave.

The slave-master will generally ensure the survival of the slave, because he wants his investment to survive. He does not want to invest too much though and will only give the slave enough to eat, drink and procreate, which is of course a horrible existence. The unemployed proletarian does not have an immediate master he responds to - unless he sells his labor, he is more likely to die than the slave. The proletarian is part of a more advanced society, because capitalism is more advanced and efficient than slavery - one of the main reasons for the civil war between the industrial north and the slavery-driven south of the USA.

tbc

tbc

"The slave frees himself when, of all the relations of private property, he abolishes only the relation of slavery and thereby becomes a proletarian; the proletarian can free himself only by abolishing private property in general."

The emancipation of slaves can only occur when he becomes a proletarian, when he is free to serve whomever he wants and to buy and sell his labor and enjoy the fruits of his labor at a higher degree than when he is enslaved. This means that the slave can only advance when slavery is abolished and he can become a worker. This is what happened in most of the world, although some slaves turned into indentured servants instead (like in India), which was more like a mix between capitalism and slavery than pure capitalism.

The proletarian, on the other hand, is already part of a more advanced economy, i.e. a capitalist one. If capitalism is higher than slavery, then the next step must be some sort of post-capitalist society: The abolition of private property in favor of personal and democratic property, i.e. some form of socialism.

I really don't understand what your issue with this is. It's just standard historical materialism: The idea that economic systems change and evolve throughout time: Hunter-gatherer, proto-communist, gift & barter based economies, palace economies, slave economies, feudal economies, capitalist economies and post-capitalist future economies.

Just be careful about spies. Don't get paranoid, but careful about any guys talking about wanting to commit crime, asking you super personal questions and so on. Use your common sense. Any larger leftist group has infiltrators and spies in them eventually, including the PSL.

They are spying on Twitter users with names like "pisspiggrandad" or "leninlover69" and trying to tie them with foreign agents just to arrest them

Thanks for the notice bro <3

No problem man. If you're not super naive you will notice it anyway. Just trust your gut and shy away from illegal stuff.

Lol @ the communist genocide thread being stickied but not this one with 1500 posts.

brace

this dude casually admitting to a coup on twitter lmfaoooooo

Picked up a copy of “The Marx-Engels Reader” for 5 bucks today

Sounds stupid, I’ve read a lot of theory online but this is the first physical book on Socialism I’ve owned so I’m excited to read it

It's always best to read primary sources